• Agent Karyo@lemmy.world
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    Don’t know why this was downvoted.

    I likely have an even more cynical take on American “conservatives” than those who are often labelled woke (and paradoxically I don’t always agree with), yet I don’t see the big deal with having a conservative community/instance or whatever.

    I mean, Lemmy is rife with tankies; it doesn’t get much worse than that.

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      Because Lemmy very much wants an echo-chamber. Even tho many say they left Reddit to get out of echo-chambers.

      I’ve seen lots of posts saying variations of, “I don’t think the Fediverse should allow conservative communites.” lol

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        FWIW, I think the term “echo-chamber” is way overused, almost to the point of being meaningless. I also don’t believe in the sincerity and coherence of American-style conceptions of “free speech”.

        “Fediverse shouldn’t allow convervatives communities” is nuts though. This is not workable from a practical perspective (forget the moral questions for a second).

        Racism, overt dehumanisation, denial of widely accepted mass scale human rights abuses; that’s something that can be managed from a moderation standpoint. But this would impact groups across the political spectrum (nazies, tankies, some far right, some far left).

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          The paradox of intolerance: tolerating intolerance immediately results in an intolerant society.

          There are various paradoxes and limitations inherent to a socially liberal society (not including the obvious issues of capitalism) that have been exploited by billionaires, fascists, strongmen, religious nuts and many others.

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            I very much agree.

            But there are other ways to create incentives for avoiding criminal behaviour and corruption (which IMO is closely tied to intolerance - a modern circus if you will).

            Things like full asset seizure, mandatory multi-decade live-in community service work as a junior custodian in a medical centre.

            If say an oligarch like Mark Zuckerberg (who very likely enabled mass killings in Myanmar both due to lack of concern and “risk management”) had all his assets seized and was sent for 20 years to the Island of Bhasan Char to work all the lowest level janitor on the island, other oligarchs would understand that they need show a modicum of respect and understanding towards others.

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          FWIW, I think the term “echo-chamber” is way overused

          Fair point! I agree with all your points made.

          I should clarify and say that I think Lemmy very much wants to erase all conservative content from the fediverse. Which is totally against what the fediverse stands for.

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    I’m happy simply because it will cut down on conservative content elsewhere and I can simply filter the community lmao.

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      I think more people should follow your example, to be honest.

      I prefer people block them, rather than calling for them to be banned. Conservatives have just as much of a right to be here as liberals.

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    1 day ago

    Thank you for supporting this, even tho it goes against the wave of Lemmy. I’ll be switching to you to be my main instance. I am loving the vibe there. You guys are awesome!

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      🙌🙌✨️✨️✨️ AW! :'D Well thank you so much for the kind words! ♥️ I just approved your application, we’re happy to have you and hope you have lots of fun on HC with us!

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    There are a number of conservative instances that have popped up. I have yet to see any actual discussion. My experience has been that conservatives get their marching orders from fox news or a few other places and don’t give it any thought. When I visit my Trumper relatives, I know exactly what they will be bitching about. Doesn’t matter if it’s untrue, like Bidens open borders.

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      The more posts I see from you, the more I respect you! I know you went through some rough hits and pushback.

      Unfortunately I am seeing your home instance, lemm.ee being part of this push against opposing opinions lately.

      I am liking the vibe of hilarious chaos a lot. I’m switching to it as my main instance.

      • 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@lemm.ee
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        I just say what I think and some people like it some don’t. Some like some of the things I say and hate other things I say.

        I haven’t had any issue with .ee yet. As u may know someone made a thread to call me a bigot cos I didn’t silence someone from saying something in a community I modded. The .ee admins where tagged like 6 times in that thread with people calling to memory hole me the admins then said “we will be taking action against this user” which translates to doing literally nothing. I had to message them asking what that action would be to which they responded give up on ur argument its not worth it.

        A little neutrality seems to be going a long way with hc.

        Tbh I give zero fuck about the hate its very entertaining.

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      Don’t let the negative Nillies of lemmy get you down. I was a little concerned after I saw your promotion post for the news bot community. I didn’t see any more posts from the bot, and I was worried you might have felt discouraged by the negative feed back you got.

      But I’m happy to see that the bot is still posting and going strong!

      I do have one small ask, (Dmd you, not sure if you got it) but could you upload a Community icon for the news bot community? You don’t have to upload a banner, just community icon image.

      I Generated the two below with ai you can choose from, or you can use your own. Either ways fine with us 😊