“This is really going to impact institutions that we take for granted,” Internet Archive director of archiving and data services Jefferson Bailey told the Standard, “like our museums, our historical societies, our public libraries, our academic libraries — just a lot of people that keep information free and accessible and online.”

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      What a time to be alive. It’s like Ancient Rome has entered the peaceful minecraft nature server.

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    Honest question…Can we just pop all that on a server in Canada or something? Couldn’t the devs make a deal with another country not bound by your IP law or “government” to save your history along with that of other countries as well?

    I’m gonna ask my MP as well.

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        I doubt the Library of Alexandria had permission from all rights holders to hold copies of many books. /s

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      Recent inconvinient history. They love to dig up ancient “glory days” (e.g., Ancient Rome, Teutonic knights…) and attach them to their image.

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        They’re not meticulous historians though. LGBTQ people were more accepted in the Roman Republic (and in ancient Greek) than today.

        “Caius Julius Caesar: husband to all the wives, wife to all the husbands.” was a saying that my Latin professor taught us in school.

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          They’re not meticulous historians though. LGBTQ people were more accepted in the Roman Republic (and in ancient Greek) than today.

          “Caius Julius Caesar: husband to all the wives, wife to all the husbands.” was a saying that my Latin professor taught us in school.

          Being AMAB and bottom was stigmatized to the point their swearing system revolved around emasculation threats, so that’s different from what the queer movement of today aims for…

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            Our swearing system in modern English revolves around sex, violence and infidelity, but our society is also kinda into those things. Societies are complicated.

            Edit: also sometimes people still say shit about bottoms when they curse.

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            I agree that it should not be the goal for any modern civilization to copy Rome. They were not a just society, they had slavery for starters, but Roman citizens enjoyed a lot of personal liberty. If you were dirt poor you would not even have the time for a “nonproductive” relationship, if you’ll excuse my expression. Kids were a resource more than a cost.

            I’m not an expert but I think “stigmatized” is too strong a word in this context, I’m sure they did joke around if a rumour or a hunch was spread about a person’s romantic affairs by the people who hated them for their success or by their enemies, I’m not sure they really cared that much otherwise. Of course before the christian emperors came along.

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    I am not now, nor have I ever been a Christian, but shit like this makes me go Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Archive.org is a critical repository of knowledge and archiving the internet. Elon has cut nothing, but damaged a ton. It is kinda incredible how many damage he has done.

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    Elon Musk is what you’d get if you gave the illusion of personality to a 4Chan troll.

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      He’s the poster child for scared, greedy, paranoid nepo babies shielded from reality by wealth inheritance and wealth inequality, incapable of empathy turning him into a fascist bigot idiot trying to kill other people to hoard more money.

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    Both the Internet Archive and Wikipedia are really important. I guess the way is to make alternatives or datahoard in these difficult times.

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      Why make alternatives when these fantastic organizations already exist? It’s not the first time they’ve come under fire and it definitely won’t be the last.

      If vandalous cunts like Musk wish for them to go away and will de-fund them to that end, best thing we can do is donate to them and spread the word they need help.

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        I think that if we work together as people we can achieve more than just a couple of good organizations that can fade. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t donate to Wikipedia or Internet Archive. The goal isn’t to compete, it isn’t a business. Just to make things stronger.

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        Why make alternatives when these fantastic organizations already exist? It’s not the first time they’ve come under fire and it definitely won’t be the last.

        You’ve answered your own question: because one day they might not take the fire and collapse. It’s like saying it’s not the first time your old HDD has been showing bad sectors and definitely won’t be the last. That’s all the more reason to make a backup!

        I agree with you that we should donate to them and make them more people-funded, but ideally you want that taken care of through public funding coming out of taxes. You can’t just sustain every single entity through individual donations.

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        How does it work? Does it download all Wikipedia or any other website I point it to (like Project Gutenberg as it says on the website) pages or does it download it when I access the page?

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          You get a .zim file that is either just text on the pages or text + pictures. One I have is like 109GB~ w/ pictures. There’s many others to choose from as well I believe not just the ones I mentioned

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    The government funded them $345,000.

    This is 100% spiteful and not an example of “wasteful government spending”

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      We can easily crowdfund this. Especially the parts regarding Republican fuckery.

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          It sucks because the goal of all of this is privatization. They literally want regular people to pick up the “slack” (that they themselves artificially created) and fund things that are supposed to be public services.

          So when they cut shit like this, our options are basically to: let it die, or do the exact thing that they want. Either way, it’s a win for them. It fucking sucks.

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          Just join the party? Everybody knows the US is a steaming shitshow more than usual.

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    Elon Musk will go to any length to scrub this image from the Internet:

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    They want to remove anything that keeps history accountable. This anti accountability regime don’t want their sins to be remembered. Imagine the linage of these assholes. How they will be looked down upon because their ancestors are are bigots and liars.