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    1 day ago

    Yes I am well aware that Israel conflates them. I am saying Cocopanda is just like the Israelis in this regard.

    Can you explain how Zionism is antisemitic? That’s quite a hot take.

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      It creates hate for jews by hiding behind them and speaking in their name.
      It is not a hot take.
      You will probably find the following equally true statement even hotter: zionism is fascism.
      Have some fun: https://zionism.wtf/

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      Zionism is based upon the myth that everyone hates Jews and that Jews can’t live among other people. I am awfully summarizing what I heard an antizionist rabbi say.

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        1 day ago

        Regardless of whether it is true or false that Jews are a target of hatred, it would not be antisemitic to think that they are. In other words, believing antisemitism exists is not antisemitic. (Personally, I believe antisemitism is absolutely real, but being anti-Israel is not antisemitism. For instance, the KKK excluded jews.)

        I also think it’s not antisemitic to think that Jews would benefit from a homeland of their own, despite the fact that antisemites helped create Israel. That’s not the same as believing Jews cannot live among other people.

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          Whatever it may be, it should have never been made our problem and should have never been right in the middle of the Arab World. But there is a Christian Evangelical and European Colonial aspect to Zionism.

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            20 hours ago

            Well yeah, but now you’re saying something very different from what you were saying before. And I agree, Israel was a mistake. Unfortunately it’s a problem that’s hard to fix now.

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              15 hours ago

              No it isn’t. The Frankish invaders were expelled after 200 years. The French in Algeria were expelled after 100 years. Similar problems have already been solved twice before.

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                12 hours ago

                I would not say that is an easy solution. And I do not think people should be expelled from the place where they were born.

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                  12 hours ago

                  With how racist and supremacist Israelis are, they will probably leave on their own terms like the Boers did after the end of apartheid in South Africa. The idea of coexistence and normalization has been killed many times over thanks to the genocide. I used to advocate for it, now I don’t, I personally want them gone from the region.

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                    I don’t think I can agree with “I personally want them gone from the region” in any context unfortunately. Maybe some day I’ll be disillusioned.

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            it should have never been made our problem

            The cleaves between the faiths have exsisted there for thousands of years. Israel is a new power, but the participatory Abrahamic religions are not. Nor are most of the peoples there. Its best to remember European Jewish weren’t the only peoples to build up Israel.

            I think you’ve gone too far with your comment.

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              Moroccan, Indian, Iranian, Syrian, Yemeni, Ethiopian and Iraqi Jews are still settlers and not indigenous to Palestine. They are invaders, you give them a part of your country and leave us out of it.