I am glad communists have started to feel so strongly about mass murder, but this man hardly was the sole reason his healthcare company chose this policy, and as far as I understand other companies did similar things. You are blaming an individual for institutional issues. While he is, obviously, evil, he is not, clearly, the cause of these policies. If he was not willing to implement them he would be removed.
But this is hardly relevant, this is, from a legal standpoint, murder, and thank God it is, since no sensible person would want to live in a society where someone can just murder anyone because of ideological convictions and political goals.
But from a moral standpoint this is, of course, still murder. We denounce the use of the capital punishment on the most horrible criminals, but when a CEO is murdered on the street, without trial, suddenly death is perfectly fine as a punishment. This is not self defense. This is not “defense” of anything. This is murder. And Luigi is a criminal, and I hope he realises the gravity of what he has done.
but this man hardly was the sole reason his healthcare company chose this policy
He was proud of it and could’ve done anything to prevent it. This company leads in false denials over all others.
You are blaming an individual for institutional issues
An individual at the top of an institution that does it with literally no remorse.
If he was not willing to implement them he would be removed.
Then get removed and work in another industry.
But this is hardly relevant, this is, from a legal standpoint, murder, and thank God it is, since no sensible person would want to live in a society where someone can just murder anyone because of ideological convictions and political goals.
No, in a sensible society what he’s doing would legally be murder, so, we wouldn’t have to do anything like this in the first place.
But from a moral standpoint this is, of course, still murder.
Justified murder, an act of defense of others.
We denounce the use of the capital punishment on the most horrible criminals, but when a CEO is murdered on the street, without trial, suddenly death is perfectly fine as a punishment.
He’s one of the worst possible criminals and deserved the death penalty. This country just doesn’t believe that mass murder is wrong as long as you’re making money off of it.
This is not “defense” of anything.
It’s a rejection of the notion that these CEO’s aren’t mass-murderers. They are, vigilante justice had to happen because there was no justice happening elsewise. If the courts were planning on doing anything, planning on doing a trial against this obvious murderer, then you’d have a point.
I am so sorry. I understand now I was very immoral when I said that lynchings are bad. I now see that due process is pointless, and we should just kill people we believe to be evil willy nilly.
Was there even a shred of a doubt that he wasn’t guilty of mass murder? Does anyone doubt that this person was in charge of this mass murder?
Is there even a 1% chance that he isn’t guilty of mass murder?
Beyond all reasonable doubt happened, this is no less legitimate than state-sanctioned violence. Again, i’d prefer the courts handle this… but this type of mass murder is perfectly legal.
The only question is, does this count as murder? and the answer is obvious, he’s killing people for more money, it should.
Lynching is bad, but there are exceptions for every rule, and this is an obvious exception. In this case, he killed to help save lives, so, there’s nothing wrong with that.
If you say lynchings are bad, that means that justice should be delivered by the state. But you seem to think, that it does not matter who does it. It seems like a contradiction.
When the state fails to deliver justice it becomes the duty of the people to carry it out. This was true when Harriet Tubman was smuggling slaves into free states and it remains true today. Do not confuse what is lawful with what is right.
yes, lynching can be fine in some niche circumstances, like this one.
killing can be acceptable depending on the reason. most lynchings are horrible and evil, but this is an obvious exception.
when keeping slaves was legal, if some slaves rose up to kill their master, would that be acceptable? I say obviously yes, you would say “well what they were doing is legal so this is a lynching and therefore immoral!”
was the american revolution immoral? They murdered a lot of people! If someone is depriving you of your human rights, such as healthcare, killing is justified.
so no, lynchings are not universally evil. Killing is not universally evil. There are some universally evil things, but some evil things can be justified. Killing is one of those, there is nuance, and every case must be looked at individually.
It’s not murder if you’re defending someone, this was a defense of countless against a mass murderer who planned to continue killing without remorse
I am glad communists have started to feel so strongly about mass murder, but this man hardly was the sole reason his healthcare company chose this policy, and as far as I understand other companies did similar things. You are blaming an individual for institutional issues. While he is, obviously, evil, he is not, clearly, the cause of these policies. If he was not willing to implement them he would be removed.
But this is hardly relevant, this is, from a legal standpoint, murder, and thank God it is, since no sensible person would want to live in a society where someone can just murder anyone because of ideological convictions and political goals.
But from a moral standpoint this is, of course, still murder. We denounce the use of the capital punishment on the most horrible criminals, but when a CEO is murdered on the street, without trial, suddenly death is perfectly fine as a punishment. This is not self defense. This is not “defense” of anything. This is murder. And Luigi is a criminal, and I hope he realises the gravity of what he has done.
He was proud of it and could’ve done anything to prevent it. This company leads in false denials over all others.
An individual at the top of an institution that does it with literally no remorse.
Then get removed and work in another industry.
No, in a sensible society what he’s doing would legally be murder, so, we wouldn’t have to do anything like this in the first place.
Justified murder, an act of defense of others.
He’s one of the worst possible criminals and deserved the death penalty. This country just doesn’t believe that mass murder is wrong as long as you’re making money off of it.
It’s a rejection of the notion that these CEO’s aren’t mass-murderers. They are, vigilante justice had to happen because there was no justice happening elsewise. If the courts were planning on doing anything, planning on doing a trial against this obvious murderer, then you’d have a point.
I am so sorry. I understand now I was very immoral when I said that lynchings are bad. I now see that due process is pointless, and we should just kill people we believe to be evil willy nilly.
Was there even a shred of a doubt that he wasn’t guilty of mass murder? Does anyone doubt that this person was in charge of this mass murder?
Is there even a 1% chance that he isn’t guilty of mass murder?
Beyond all reasonable doubt happened, this is no less legitimate than state-sanctioned violence. Again, i’d prefer the courts handle this… but this type of mass murder is perfectly legal.
The only question is, does this count as murder? and the answer is obvious, he’s killing people for more money, it should.
Lynching is bad, but there are exceptions for every rule, and this is an obvious exception. In this case, he killed to help save lives, so, there’s nothing wrong with that.
If you say lynchings are bad, that means that justice should be delivered by the state. But you seem to think, that it does not matter who does it. It seems like a contradiction.
When the state fails to deliver justice it becomes the duty of the people to carry it out. This was true when Harriet Tubman was smuggling slaves into free states and it remains true today. Do not confuse what is lawful with what is right.
So lynchings are fine, then?
your worldview is so black and white.
yes, lynching can be fine in some niche circumstances, like this one.
killing can be acceptable depending on the reason. most lynchings are horrible and evil, but this is an obvious exception.
when keeping slaves was legal, if some slaves rose up to kill their master, would that be acceptable? I say obviously yes, you would say “well what they were doing is legal so this is a lynching and therefore immoral!”
was the american revolution immoral? They murdered a lot of people! If someone is depriving you of your human rights, such as healthcare, killing is justified.
so no, lynchings are not universally evil. Killing is not universally evil. There are some universally evil things, but some evil things can be justified. Killing is one of those, there is nuance, and every case must be looked at individually.