• Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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        Broken clock moment.

        Leviticus 24:16
        Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him.

        Plenty of other nice punishments for whatever. burning at the stake, hanging, and crucifixion.
        Or maybe some non-lethal whipping or wife beating.
        No thanks

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          You assume I’m extolling the virtues of Christianity when I’m just pointing out that their own religious text agrees with the comment I’m replying to.

          I get the feeling you’re beating a dead horse.

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            Your reply might very well be that, since there is nothing in your verse contradicting his faulty statement that there are good ‘true’ christians.

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              Jesus Christ, there’s nothing stating there are good true Christians either. Are you this combative with everyone, or is religion just a tender spot for you?

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                Projection much?
                I simply made a statement.
                No noeed to jebus me or give me your amateur psycho-analysis.
                Why do you get so triggered by it?
                Religion is nothing to me, hapily atheist youth in western Europe without annoying bible thumpers.
                It’s nothing more to me than a subject of ridicule.
                But I’ll leave it at that since it clearly hits a nerve. Bye now

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                  I simply made a statement.

                  …yeah, and I just provided a quote. Didn’t stop you from projecting your assumptions onto me below.

                  Your reply might very well be that, since there is nothing in your verse contradicting his faulty statement that there are good ‘true’ christians.

                  What is this “YOU DIDN’T DISAVOW, YOU MIGHT AS WELL SUPPORT IT” juvenile reasoning.

                  you can just say “my bad, I didn’t know where you were coming from and thought you were a bible thumper”

                  But I’ll leave it at that since it clearly hits a nerve.

                  Ah, the classic “I’m rubber, you’re glue” line.

                  Well, have a good day as well.

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          Do you imagine that the same people wrote the stuff in Leviticus and Matthew? They were composed like 400-600 years apart

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                yawn.

                Stopped discussing bible thumpers and flat earthers when I was 12. So bye

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                    I’ll just block you, the online equivalent of slamming the door in the faceof annoying biblethumpers at your door that won’t go away.
                    Go cry somewhere else with your BS

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      used to believe that. and that there was an elusive demographic of “Schroedenger’s Christians” who were true believers and didn’t want to hurt anyone. but at its core, that’s just not the point. the tolerant christians are the outliers and as of ten years ago they may as well not exist

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        Can’t be a true believer in eternal damnation and suffering and “not want to hurt anyone”

        Our flawed brains simply can’t truly comprehend eternity and the creator of said brains also wants to use eternity as punishment. Supporting a system that is so cruel and final is in itself an act of cruelty.

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          “Eternal damnation and suffering” is fan fiction (Dante’s inferno) that somehow caught on. (The “somehow” being part and parcel with the other very good criticisms of the Church.)

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            There’s a lot of things in and not in the bible, all that matters is what Christians widely believe. For a long time Christians were opposed to using forks and finance but now I bet 99.9% are perfectly fine with it.

            This is why belief is poison for rational thought. I can’t explain that damnation is not in the Bible but how to perform abortion is, for there to be Christian support for abortion. No points can be made against a faith specifically evolved to feed on the desire to be the misunderstood underdog with righteous purpose.

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        The first commandment being “I am thy God and though shalt have no other gods before me” (which implies the existence of other gods quite directly) before “thou shalt not kill” is pretty indicative or the actual attitude of the religion.

        “The intolerance of narrow monotheism is written in letters of blood across the history of man from the time when first the tribes of Israel burst into the land of Canaan. The worshippers of the one jealous God are egged on to aggressive wars against people of alien [beliefs and cultures]. They invoke divine sanction for the cruelties inflicted on the conquered. The spirit of old Israel is inherited by Christianity and Islam, and it might not be unreasonable to suggest that it would have been better for Western civilization if Greece had moulded it on this question rather than Palestine.”

        — Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_monotheism

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        I’m not Christian but I doubt this, most people like to keep to themselves despite their religion.

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          I grew up deep in their community. No they dont. They hate everyone who isn’t them and are pretty stoked they don’t have to passively tell people “I’ll pray for you” anymore. Getting back to white hoods as fast as possible was always the goal.

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      Agreed, but I do feel like some sort of radical when I say to just read and follow Jesus’s teachings.

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        Well you’d be against any human ideology if you follow his teachings, so yeah. That’s pretty radical