(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)

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      You Lemmy progressives need to be honest with yourselves. If “not a fascist” wasn’t enough to make you vote for Harris there isn’t a candidate in the universe that would have passed your purity test. It’s almost like you actually wanted Trump to win.

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          That strategy won the majority of elections since the 90s.

          Trump lost by more in 2020 and repeated his strategy just to win. Too bad he didn’t follow the leftist strategy of complaining and not trying to win.

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            He complained a lot. He complained after winning. The difference is, Trump campaigned to win right wing losers… The problem is… so did Kamala.

            This constant blaming the left for Democrats’ failure is the true psyop, and you seem to be foolish enough to play along…

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              He didnt just complain without trying to win. Like leftists are popular for doing.

              Kamala campaigned to everyone. Trying to reach as many voters as possible because that is a prerequisite for winning elections and a reason leftists don’t win elections.

              Russia needed Trump to win for their invasion. It is public knowledge that their strategy is to create infighting in the US so we are more divided and don’t get anything done. This is done by trying to push the right further right and the left further left.

              We already know the GOP campaigns with the goal of preventing Dems from winning.

              Kamala campaigned on making the wealthy pay their fair share so the billionaire class didn’t want her to win.

              These are the obvious sources of “psyops” that are rampant on the internet right now.

              This constant blaming the left for Democrats’ failure is the true psyop

              This doesn’t even make sense.

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        Oh I voted for Harris (and am also not the person you replied to) but “Compromise on all your ideals” describes the trajectory of the Kamala candidacy quite well. And that’s best case. Worst case, as the atlantic suggested way back in 2020, she didn’t share those ideals to begin with.

        And that sprint to the right that she made didn’t move the needle on R voters at all. She should have campaigned like she wanted Democrat votes, but she didn’t. She talked a lot about her Glock and got cozy with the war criminals of the prior generation, didn’t talk much about climate change, and even gave space on stage to Liz Cheney at the DNC instead of even giving a single minute to a pro-Palestine Democrat, to try getting some of the basket of deplorables to pick her. None of them did, and it didn’t make Democrats very happy either.

        Maybe if the Democratic candidate had acted like she wanted Democrat votes, this map would have looked different in the end.

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          Keep going… What drives turnout? Citizen campaigning.

          Maybe if leftists didn’t spend the year leading up to the election protesting the better candidate we would have seen a better outcome.

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            So Kamala had no duty to motivate the people she wanted to vote for her? That seems a bit backwards from how I’ve always understood elections.

            I agree that “Not Trump” actually should be enough in today’s climate - but it wasn’t in 2016, so why trot out that playbook again? Seems shortsighted and stupid, almost as if corporate donations and Republican voters seemed more imporantant to the DNC than Democrat voters, who were just expected to be “in the bag.”

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            I see the BlueMAGA crowd has moved from “you have to vote for Democrats” to “you can never criticize Democrats”

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            The proper assignment of blame is on Joe Biden for not getting out of the way to have a real primary.

            People weren’t given a choice for their candidate. Excitement drives Democratic turnout, and they’ve been tamping down expectations for decades now. There’s nothing exciting about the campaign strategy of “we’re not Donald Trump.”

            Blaming leftists for the failings of liberals is what keeps pushing the party establishment to the right.

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        If “not a fascist” wasn’t enough to make you vote for Harris

        if they want this title then maybe they shouldn’t have been arming and defending the extermination campaign in Palestine

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        I’m convinced they are bad actors. With all the damage Trump is doing they still complain about the alternative like they are campaigning for the GOP.

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      Compromise on all your ideals and field the most mediocre candidate

      If Kamala is mediocre what does that make Trump?

      Secondly what is it about Trump that most strikes him as a conservative? What conservative values do you think he thinks about and values the most?

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        If Kamala is mediocre what does that make Trump?

        You are aware that Harris lost right?

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          Yes, it’s possible to have 2 shit candidates you know :P

          In Australia we are frequently voting for the ‘least worst’ candidate, we have mandatory voting so very few of us have this idea in our head that we need to run out and enthusiastically support a candidate, we just vote for the one who we think will do the least damage, in Australia Kamala would have won easily

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            Yes, it’s possible to have 2 shit candidates you know :P

            Yes, and Kamala lost.

            In Australia we are frequently voting for the ‘least worst’ candidate

            Australian doesn’t have first past the post voting! What are you talking about!

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              Australian doesn’t have first past the post voting! What are you talking about!

              I don’t get it, how does this preclude having shit options to vote for?

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                Because the entire justification for “lesser evil” voting is that America has first past the post voting

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                  I don’t get it, can you explain it more? I’m not talking about the voting system, I’m talking about the culture:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_of_two_evils_principle#In_modern_elections

                  In 2012, Huffington Post columnist Sanford Jay Rosen stated that refusal to vote for the lesser of two evils became common practice for left-leaning voters in the United States due to their overwhelming disapproval of the United States government’s support for the Vietnam War.[8] Rosen stated: “Beginning with the 1968 presidential election, I often have heard from liberals that they could not vote for the lesser of two evils. Some said they would not vote; some said they would vote for a third-party candidate. That mantra delivered us to Richard Nixon in 1972 until Watergate did him in. And it delivered us to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney in 2000 until they were termed out in 2009”.[8]

                  She can add it delivered Trump 2024 as well to that list