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    Thanks. For giving some advice on how people get organized. Even if it had to come with a lot of condescending jabs at other people that organize. My entire point is trying to get people to go outside and do something.

    No one’s LARPing in real life man. We’re doing stuff that materially helps people. Keep your criticism of sweaty Tankies on Twitter/Reddit to the online world. That’s not how things work when you work with people face to face. And it’s definitely not at all representative of PSL and DSA.

    Good luck with your local organizing and stay safe from ICE.

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      Thanks. For giving some advice on how people get organized. Even if it had to come with a lot of condescending jabs at other people that organize.

      This you?

      If you sit by looking for the “politically pure” form of resistance to fascism you will always sit on a “holier than thou” fence of Liberalism.

      When it comes to insisting that others need to ‘go outside’ or how only your preferred ideologies are involved in ‘resisting’ or in accusing others of genocide support, you lot are predictably pugnacious, but whenever any of your own rhetoric is turned around on you, you bawl and cry about how mean it is.

      No one’s LARPing in real life man.

      Hard disagree. I’ve met people who LARP in real life. They’re not that different than they are online. That is to say, normal people who’ve taken a purist position with the same fanaticism that Christian evangelicals do, and with the same eager-yet-moribund eschatology.

      Keep your criticism of sweaty Tankies on Twitter/Reddit to the online world.

      Man, I avoid tankies in the real world. They’re far fewer and it’s much easier.

      Unfortunately for you, most people left-of-center by US standards in the USA are going to be the dreaded libs, so if you’re actually looking to build resistance to fascism, you may end up needing to work with them, or their orgs, or even exercise solidarity with their causes.

      And it’s definitely not at all representative of PSL and DSA.

      While I’ve not met actual members of PSL IRL, I have definitely met members of DSA, and they’re a mixed bag for the reasons stated.

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            I really think you should learn to read because I literally never said anything about it.

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              I really think you should learn to read because I literally never said anything about it.

              This you?

              Yeah when ICE is taking away my neighbors I always make sure to vet my resistance groups to make sure they have my same exact view on a conflict between two oligarch controlled nations. /s

              Was this what you were responding to?

              Ah yes, “Palestinian genocide is bad but Ukrainian genocide is good”

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                Alright. I feel bad now. You just actually don’t understand how to read subtext and what is being implied through the use of sarcasm. Like that’s literally what I meant by “learning to read” and you just proved my point. That sentence literally says nothing about my opinions on Ukraine and Russias conflict.

                I feel like I’m having a conversation with a child at this point. I have to stop. But it’s kind of funny now.

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                  Alright. I feel bad now. You just actually don’t understand how to read subtext and what is being implied through the use of sarcasm. Like that’s literally what I meant by “learning to read” and you just proved my point.

                  Ah, the classic “I was just joking bro” without any indication of a joke, or what the joke might actually be, other than that you really didn’t mean it.

                  That sentence literally says nothing about my opinions on Ukraine and Russias conflict.

                  Yeah when ICE is taking away my neighbors I always make sure to vet my resistance groups to make sure they have my same exact view on a conflict between two oligarch controlled nations. /s

                  Uh huh. Clearly not dismissing Ukrainian genocide as “a conflict between two oligarch controlled nations” and saying, through sarcasm, that the position of a resistance group on genocide is meaningless, and that opposition to genocide is a matter of having the ‘same exact view’. Obviously your statement meant nothing of substance, not unlike everything else you’ve said here.

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                    Its not “a classic” when I literally tagged it with /s mate. I’m not reverting to “it’s just a joke”.

                    It was a tongue in cheek comment that pointed to how out of touch you are with reality. Which you’re really not doing a good job of disproving.

                    You are the one jumping to conclusions on that. Not me. But it goes hand in hand with what I’ve been saying all along.

                    This whole time you have spent just trying to have an online beef. And you’ve gotten progressively more and more upset as I don’t participate in the initial think you said about PSL and then assumed I held the same position you are already misinformed on.

                    You are trying to force me into a position I don’t hold. I am in no way in favor of Russia invading Ukraine. And I have never met a single person in my years at PSL that has been. You’re trying to argue against something that was never said and using a sarcastic comment you misinterpreted as your basis for it.

                    What are you even trying to say at this point? I feel like you’ve made up what MY positions are in your head already and now you’re trying to defeat them.