Hello, is there any social media on this planet that does not ban people for things that are completely legal in all of the European legal systems?

Or is the fediverse the best choice because even though if moderators guide public opinion on the mainstream instances, people can still go to a smaller instance for refuge.

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    I’m looking for a place like r/capitalismvsocialism or r/purplepilldebate

    Place where people communicate with eachother and nobody gets banned.

    I’m quite sick of bubbles. Everyone just sticking with like minded people and removing the rest.

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      There’s a reason they’re called ‘communities’ on Lemmy. What you see as a bubble, other see as a place of refuge where they’re not going to be attacked by people ‘just asking questions’.

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        There’s a study somewhere that states humans were never meant to have communities above a few hundred, and the bigger we grew the more we lost. I for one am happy with leaving some folk sad they’re not allowed back in when they break community rules.

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        Well @Leraje, that’s exactely what has happend to me. I asked a simple question in another community and get bashed by some people just like you would expect on some other social. Then I said: “I’m out of here” and I unsubscribed and blocked the community. Just to say that there are dipheads here too.

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          " I asked a simple question…"

          Without knowing what community it was and what the exact question was, I’m not sure what you’re expecting me to say about that.

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            That’s OK. You don’t have to say something about my post. I just wanted to inform you all that on Lemmy there are also haters, keyboard warriors or people that are so depressed that they can’t see anything positive in a post, a question or a reply.

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        Can’t say that I share the sentiment of those people. I haven’t blocked anyone in my entire life.

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            why does race, sexual orientation & gender have to be brought up?

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              Because you are usually subjected to a lot less abuse when you’re a ciswhitehetmale in a NW country.
              This usually leads to a different need for safe spaces, like-minded communities and blocking people than oppressed groups.

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                I’m a minority (autism), I don’t need a safe space.

                I need people to stop being authoritarian and communicate with eachother.

                If only minorities were authoritarian, then there would be no issue. Since they’d be just a minority. It wouldn’t be noticed.

                It’s clearly the majority that deal the blow. Logical, right?

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                  I’m a minority (autism), I don’t need a safe space.

                  Thank you for sharing your personnal experience. I am glad that your personnality and life experience don’t make you feel the need for a safe space, that’s uplifting.

                  This being said, other people from minorities seem to have a different viewpoint and consider safe spaces are important/necessary. The fact that some individuals don’t need one doesn’t negate the need (and right) of others individual to create these safe spaces.

                  I need people to stop being authoritarian and communicate with eachother.

                  That’s great, but it’s also within peoples’ rights to choose who they want to communicate with and to filter that by interest, values or other factors.
                  I find it important that depending on my energy levels and my mental health I can choose who I engage with.

                  If only minorities were authoritarian, then there would be no issue. Since they’d be just a minority. It wouldn’t be noticed.I.
                  t’s clearly the majority that deal the blow. Logical, right?

                  I’m not sure I understand what you mean there, could you explain a bit more?

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                    The latter part. Minorities do not have power. They just do not have that. So their actions are barely noticed.

                    If only minorities were authoritarian and block communication channels, then nobody would notice it. It would be a rounding error.

                    This is because they are only a small amount of people.

                    Women aren’t a minority, they are half the population. But according to many, they are a minority. This is wrong.

                    If women want a safe space from men (they do, female only subreddits ban more than male only subreddits) then that’s fine, but it’s not because they are a minority.

                    In this day and age everyone feels like a minority and likely are minorities. But that’s only a part of them.

                    I’m autistic (minority). I’m male (equal), I’m European (majority on this app, minority in the world).

                    Okay now… if I were to be a marxist leninist (minority in the western countries) so I create a safe space.

                    Okay but we have dozens of political ideologies. They all are pretty much a minority then. Definitely because they vary across countries.

                    Giving each ideology a safe space because they are “a minority” neutralises eachother. They all are.

                    In reality, just like the way a government gets formed. People need to communicate and compromise.

                    Blocking communication stops growth, and hence I do not like this culture of bubbles/echo chambers on Lemmy.

                    Got no clue how to alter that, or if there’s social media that doesn’t create echo chambers by blocking those that do not fit in there.

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      Why not start your own Lemmy instance? If people are interested into that, they’ll join.

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          You should definitely be working in IT at least. Don’t forget that you are responsible for personal data from your users.

          Price-wise it’s not that expensive to host a Lemmy instance. A few hundred users cost you 20 to 30 euros a month.

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      Generally speaking, I’ve found Lemmy to be far less accepting of different viewpoints than either Twitter or Reddit in their heyday. The echo chamber is extremely strong here, even though the “correct” narrative is different.

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        I vote left wing, but left wingers in general are less accepting of freedom of expression. That’s my experience.

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          I feel the same, but right wingers also arent exactly very accepting either. Try talking about the climate crisis (which should be apolitical) or workers rights and you will see what I mean.

          maybe its not a political issue, its just bigotry?

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            They ramble on and on, but they don’t want the other person to be banned. They just think the other person is really really stupid.

            I prefer that instead of authoritarianism to be honest.

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      Yee, banning people who have a reason to look the way they do, will make the world a worse place. Soon the right activities bubble will burst