• MudMan@fedia.io
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    10 days ago

    How is it the “most dangerous weapon in the galaxy”? They literally spend the whole movie trying to dismantle a planet killer.

    This is a glowstick that requires you to commune with the universe as an immortal cosmic wizard just to make it semi-usable without loping off your own limbs. It has the worst ratio of usability requirements to effectiveness of perhaps any fictional weapon. Especially in a setting where every farmer, entry level army grunt and random drifter carries a gun that effectively shoots these out at people on demand with seemingly no range limit.

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      9 days ago

      Maybe Anakin pointed the Death Star in his face to check it out after it was made. Like father like son.

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        9 days ago

        I’d be far from the first person to point out that the shot the planet killer beam right past a couple of operators with no guardrails or anything. It isn’t even clear how they got up there in the first place, frankly. You can even see them flinch when the beam goes past them.

        Clearly the Star Wars universe has never been big on health and safety.

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          9 days ago

          They need GOSHA. Galactic Occupationaly Health and Safety Association. I mean, they had a Trade Federation, wth. I guess we can chalk it up to being a long long time ago when safety wasn’t as mandatory.

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      10 days ago

      … to the user.

      Duh.

      Also: y’all lemmings laughing at this but I bet you don’t put the avocado half down on the cutting board before whacking the seed with the knife. Come on, raise your hand, while you still have one…

    • Sundray@lemmy.sdf.org
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      10 days ago

      I’ve always thought a Jedi could do amazing things with a blaster. If they have to have a light saber, then just put the blaster in their other hand. Best of both worlds?

      (Or just stop your enemy’s heart with your mind. Or use your super-fast running abilities to jab a fork in your enemy’s eye or something.)

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        9 days ago

        In Jedi Survivor, Cal Kestis basically mirrors

        Tap for spoiler

        Bode Akuna (a fallen Jedi turned imperial agent)

        who fights exclusively with blasters and a saber, and you can utilize a blaster/saber hybrid stance. So if the game is Canon, then a jedi using a blaster combined with a saber is a new form of combat formed after the fall of the jedi

        Edit: realized I put a spoiler in even though the game was released two years ago

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        10 days ago

        In the semi-alternate reality of the original movie they sure seem like they do. I mean, Obi Wan King Kais from the afterlife specifically to tell Luke to use the Force to torpedo the exhaust port. And to be clear, that’s because the automated targeting system wasn’t getting a lock, so that’s some superhuman nonsense shot to freehand.

        And he may find blasters “uncivilized”, but he claims Luke’s dad was a great combat pilot, so they clearly weren’t above a good ole strafing run.

        Honestly, a big part of why Star Wars used to be fun is the lore makes no sense whatsoever and is mostly left offscreen to operate under sheer dream logic.

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      9 days ago

      Real world reason for lightsabers: sheer, unadulterated, cool-factor.

      In-universe reason: useful for force-users, useless in the hands of their opponent. In a universe without safety features like handrails or seatbelts, something that automatically locks itself and is drop-safe is a powerful thing.

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        9 days ago

        Alright, so this is one of those things where I keep reminding people that Star Wars movie canon and Star Wars franchise canon barely overlap.

        The reason Obi Wan gives Luke for lightsabers in the first place is just cool factor, too. Lightsabers just seem classy. Nobody says it’s particularly powerful, just that they’re old fashioned and “less random and clumsy” than blasters. Luke handles his like a toy, Obi Wan pretty much gives it to him as a memento, he says he “almost forgot” he had it stashed because Luke’s dad wanted to hand it to him but his uncle didn’t let him. Obi Wan uses one in plain view of people and nobody even goes “Hey, look, a Jedi, I thought they were gone”. Hell, they sit down for a pint and a bit of bartering with Han immediately after that. The Empire officers, who at this point clearly don’t particularly respect Vader, seem to think he looks like a goofball waving that thing around and making grandiose claims about the power of the Force when they’re literally sitting inside a showstopper doomsday device.

        All the justifications for how little sense lightsabers make and why only Jedi seem to carry them is after the fact retconning of the barely-coherent implications of the original movie.

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    10 days ago

    This is nowhere near as bonkers as Jedi training with live lightsabers. And I don’t even mean the younglings. Even Obi Wan and Anikin sparing with live blades is insanely reckless.

    It’s no wonder the prosthetic tech is so good.

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      10 days ago

      The prosthetic industry funded the Jedi. It’s not something the Jedi would tell anyone.

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      10 days ago

      I don’t know at what point in the mythos it was added, but i recall being told by someone more into the fandom that the sabers could be set to different power levels, so when sparring, rather than kill and cut they would just shock the shit out of you or burn.

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      8 days ago

      Or the same trilogy, but Obi-Wan doesn’t sacrifice himself and does all the stuff Luke does while saying “I’m too old for this shit!”

      Hire me Hollywood