So having asked the German state attorney I know, he has confirmed my hunch. If Trump were to say this in Germany, that would constitute “Volksverhetzung” literally incitement of the people according to § 130 StGB (German penal code) which is punishible from a fine to 3 years in prison. And to add, it’s pretty clear cut.
Since he’s a foreign dignitary (fuck it feels wrong to call him that), he has diplomatic immunity though
Holy follow-up Batman! I’m with you on how bummed I am that we will never see him punished, but I appreciate you actually getting an answer on the law.
I am gonna ask the German state attorney I know what his take is on that next time I speak to him. But from my view, yeah that could already be a crime
Holocaust denial is a tricky beast too. The biggest proponents of it don’t believe what they are saying - it works as their “Big Lie.” Once someone swallows the idea that millions didn’t die, for some reason it’s easy to get them to believe that millions must die. (And that specific phrase is a meme for the hardcore - “millions must die.”)
But in “mainstream” politics they’re duplicitous fuckers that are just blowing on the dog whistles, trying to keep the plausible deniability.
Wouldn’t this be considered a form of Holocaust denial, which would make Trump supporters Holocaust-denier supporters?
I mean, a very large percentage of them are holocaust deniers already.
So having asked the German state attorney I know, he has confirmed my hunch. If Trump were to say this in Germany, that would constitute “Volksverhetzung” literally incitement of the people according to § 130 StGB (German penal code) which is punishible from a fine to 3 years in prison. And to add, it’s pretty clear cut.
Since he’s a foreign dignitary (fuck it feels wrong to call him that), he has diplomatic immunity though
Holy follow-up Batman! I’m with you on how bummed I am that we will never see him punished, but I appreciate you actually getting an answer on the law.
Cheers brother!
I am gonna ask the German state attorney I know what his take is on that next time I speak to him. But from my view, yeah that could already be a crime
Remember when Sean Spicer claimed that the Nazis didn’t use chemical weapons? Or how conspicuously absent Jews were from the 2017 International Holocaust Remembrance Day statement?
Holocaust denial is a tricky beast too. The biggest proponents of it don’t believe what they are saying - it works as their “Big Lie.” Once someone swallows the idea that millions didn’t die, for some reason it’s easy to get them to believe that millions must die. (And that specific phrase is a meme for the hardcore - “millions must die.”)
But in “mainstream” politics they’re duplicitous fuckers that are just blowing on the dog whistles, trying to keep the plausible deniability.
You are just considering this (likely) possibility now?
Not to mention that among their rationale for attacking Palestinian support has been stopping antisemitism
Unsurprising to hear that they were projecting about something else