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    Misner said it was a difficult decision to vote for Trump. He said the point of the Abandon Harris campaign was to punish the Democrats for supporting Israel during its war in Gaza, which the campaigners view as a genocide, and he hopes the Trump campaign will be more willing to negotiate with group leaders.

    Vindication feels awful here, honestly.

    “I think the biggest problem is that your messaging to Arab Americans can’t just be ‘Trump’s a fascist, Trump is Hitler. Big, scary orange man, vote for me.’ Part of being a part of the American political system is being able to separate yourself from your opponent and lay out a better vision. And she did not do that,” Abdelrahman said.

    1. Negative messaging works, as much as people like to pretend it doesn’t.

    2. If you saw a literal fascist openly declaring fascist things, and your response to the milquetoast opposition is “Well, you’re not seperated enough, stylistically”, you’re not much more than a fascist enabler.

    3. In what fucking way is “Not fascism” not a better vision than “Literal fucking fascism”?

    “She could have at least called for a ceasefire,” Khan said. (Harris repeatedly called for a ceasefire during her campaign, including during her Democratic convention speech.)

    Ah, it’s just like being on Lemmy!

    “Even in politics, humanity should be the first and the foremost thing to to be respected, to be valued, right? And [the] Democratic Party clearly, clearly, for an entire year showed us they do not care about human life,” Khan said. “They do not care about their constituents, how they feel about the massacre.”

    Ah, yes, humanity is the first and foremost thing to be respected, which is why LGBT Americans have been served to fascists on a silver platter as a protest vote. Peak humanity.

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        Gay people aren’t more important than Muslims

        It would seem that they are considerably less important than virtue signaling to Muslims for many voters, yes.

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          Ah so we all need to respect your views, but when it comes to not wanting to support genocide label it virtue signaling.

          Liberals are so pathetic. I’m sure that condescending everyone you meet will win you tons of votes.

          You all spend so much time chasing fascist voters and then act so surprised when the fascists are suddenly legitimized by society.

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            What I am not surprised about, at all, is that all the “don’t vote for her” people like yourself (apparently) are now claiming they are not in any way responsible for a fascist getting elected. It’s everyone else’s fault, but the person who literally said to not vote for the only other option than the fascist shares none of the blame.

            And if that isn’t you, you’re defending people who share the blame. Which, I would say, falls into the camp of ‘pathetic’ as well.

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              Nah man, fascism is already here. If you, me, and the rest of the Democrats were willing to tolerate a genocide to keep a system enabling a genocide, then it can’t be denied. We weren’t delaying fascism, we just weren’t the current target of it and because of that, you couldn’t see it. We’re all fucked but it’s because of these exact attitudes that allowed dehumanization to be accepted.

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                I’m sorry… did you just suggest that queer and brown people deserve to be victims of a genocide because of Democrats?