• Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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    24 hours ago

    Do you disagree with the articles points? Is there any misleading or false information in the article? Do you have an alternative source reporting on this that is acceptable to you for consumption?

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      23 hours ago

      Do you disagree with the articles points? Is there any misleading or false information in the article?

      I hear you. Attack the points, not the person. In general, agreed.

      Do you have an alternative source reporting on this that is acceptable to you for consumption?

      Not on this particular topic, but I also haven’t looked. See American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.

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      23 hours ago

      i think it’s useful to point out regardless so people can form their own opinions with as much information as possible about potential ulterior motives

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        22 hours ago

        It isn’t ever useful to attack the mouthpiece instead of the point.

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          22 hours ago

          Actually in this specific scenario, when we are trying to encourage and grow the buy Canadian movement, and move away from reliance on American, it makes sense.

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            21 hours ago

            If the information is sound it doesn’t matter who is saying it. Hard stop, no arguments.

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              Hard stop

              This is rapidly becoming its own red flag.

              It’s like “literally” was in the 1900s

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              21 hours ago

              If the information is sound it doesn’t matter who is saying it

              Who is saying the information isn’t sound?

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                21 hours ago

                The Ottawa Citizen is American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.

                Do you disagree with the articles points? Is there any misleading or false information in the article?
                

                I hear you. Attack the points, not the person. In general, agreed.

                Do you have an alternative source reporting on this that is acceptable to you for consumption?
                

                Not on this particular topic, but I also haven’t looked. See American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.

                Who is saying the information isn’t sound?

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                  21 hours ago
                  1. They’re American owned and infiltrating Canadian culture and politics, that still doesn’t mean the information isn’t sound.
                  2. I agreed with attacking the points, not the person. I never even reference the article in this sentence.
                  3. Sources acceptable for my consumption, again doesn’t mean I am insinuating that American owned media doesn’t provide sound information.

                  So, who is saying the information isn’t sound?

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                    20 hours ago

                    So, who is saying the information isn’t sound?

                    You are by attacking the source when you have no other alternative for what is in the article, and openly admit the article has no issues presenting facts.

                    Regardless of who owns the thing, it is still headquartered on Canadian soil, employing Canadians, and providing information that “real” Canadian sources aren’t.

                    So give me another source, or shut up about it.

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          it is useful to know that there might be reasons besides the point that they’re making though… you can make all completely correct arguments and still be wrong in a wider context

          why are they making the point? why do they care? what outcome are they trying to achieve? perhaps incentives are aligned, but perhaps not

          spin exists, truth can still be misleading

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            it is useful to know that there might be reasons besides the point that they’re making though… you can make all completely correct arguments and still be wrong in a wider context

            why are they making the point? why do they care? what outcome are they trying to achieve? perhaps incentives are aligned, but perhaps not

            spin exists, truth can still be misleading

            Yes I am sure thousands of people are able to keep this all under wraps to undermine Canadian democracy. They are educating Canadians on the dangers of US products for some nefarious reason only the shadow Government can know.

            Fuck out of here with this nonsense there are real problems in the world and this isn’t helpful.