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edit: complete list is here (4 pages long)
I just heard the reasons for these tariffs is probably based directly on the ratio between trade deficit compared to total trade. A tiny island where almost nobody lives and that never trades with the US got into the highest tariff category because some American bought $3 million worth of sea food in 2024.
Okay but you’re missing the point: I want to believe that this is all a highly planned and funded Russian op because the alternative is that half the country elected someone so incredibly dumb WITHOUT a conspiracy.
That is true. They used a basic equation of how much less they export to a country. And some said that this is the answer that gives the AI if you ask it.
Why are French overseas territories listed as individual nations?
The current thinking is that these tariffs were drawn up by ChatGPT, and it’s used a list of top-level domains (like .io and .hm) instead of countries.
Notice how the UK got less? He wants them to follow him like a scottish terrier, and if Farage worms his way into power, I know for a fact they’re going down the same route.
Why Bosnia, Serbia and Moldova so much?
Poor countries got screwed. The formula of how tariffs calculated is a simple equation of how much less USA exports to a country than import.
Many poor countries due to currency difference do that and got high tariffs.
If these tariffs were made to benefit Russia, why doesnt Ukraine have a higher percentage?
Because they weren’t made intelligently.
Note that more importantly, Russia has been uniquely spared any tariffs.
I saw that it is a simple equation of how much less USA exports to a country. So poor countries that import less from USA due to currency difference and export more they got screwed much more. Russia due to sanctions maybe has no trade currently that’s why she is no on the list.
Lol. There are seriously 185 counties across the four pages of that list. And Russia is not one of them.
This is out of the 193 sovereign states that the UN recognizes. Wild
The import & export totals are similar to Sri Lanka who got 44%
Several of the entries on the list are not independent countries (French Guiana, for example, has a different rate to the EU despite being part of France and the EU) and one doesn’t even have a human population (Heard & McDonald Islands, an Australian territory near Antarctica)
That’s a good observation. Also kind of weird.
Oooh. Which one doesn’t even have humans?
Heard & McDonald Islands! It’s an Australian territory literally thousands of kilometres from the nearest permanent human settlement. Scientists stop by to check on the penguins sometimes. It got its own entry on the list
I’m not surprised he put tariffs on an uninhabited (by humans) island. I am surprised he put tariffs on a place called McDonald island.
Make McDonald’s American Again!
Two of those (Heard and Mcdonald islands) on the list are uninhabited. Wild indeed.
Do you think they meant for this to look like a scorpion about to fuck shit up
Only if Russia is sort of a giant, expressive fart.
I mean, that comparison might not be wrong…
Why such high tariffs on Moldova? They’re a poor nation.
It’s the trade deficit masquerading as a tarrif - Moldova sells more than it buys from America because American stuff is expensive and Moldova can’t afford to buy American goods so it gets hit with “reciprocal” tariffs on it’s exports.
I have updated the post with a link to full list. Vietnam got 46% lmao.
for (c in countries) { c.tariffs = Math.random(); }
Sadly there are many reports, that it’s just
for (c in countries) { c.tariffs = math.max(10, (c.exportsTo(us) - c.importFrom(us)) / (c.exportsTo(us)*2)) }
That might be the chatGPT answer to Trump asking how tariffs can make America great again lmao
when will the snarky code comments start using functional programming
Something like
tariff export import = max(10, (100 * (1 - import/export)) map countries tariff
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50% for a small nation surrounded by South Africa and for a small bit of France off the coast of newfoundland
I read somewhere that the theory is countries that don’t purchase ad much from the us as the us buys from said country got more tarrifs because in trumps mind they’re losing money.
It’s not a theory, they published the formula, that’s just straight up what it is.
Reporters could recreate the entire list exactly by asking ChatGPT/Grok/Claude/Gemini what would be an easy way to tariff other nations.
The tariff % is simply the US trade deficit with that country divided by imports from it.https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grok
Switzerland was so proud of avoiding the face eating leopard for so long. But the leopard found out how delectable Swiss faces are.
Idiot opportunists still haven’t learned there are no opportunities with fascists like Trump. Fucking idiots.
10% is the default, no? Does that not include Russia? Not that there should be any trading at the moment.
Russia is not on the list. The bare minimum is 10% from the list. Also the whole list from BBC
Edit: holy fuck i didn’t see that there are 4 pages of that list. . .
But no Russia?
They have sanctions on them, so i do not know what is their current situation in trade with them. I bet that is gonna change though.
Hard to believe the sanctions had any actual impact as uninhabited islands are having tariffs leavied against them.
Russia isn’t listed.
Hahahahahahaha
Mexico, Canada, Russia and Belarus missing from the list
Mexico and Canada have agreements already.
The trump org said that Russia and Belarus are embargo anyway so no trading with them is why they were not there.
Does this mean Russia doesn’t get any tariffs at all? Also, why higher tariffs for Switzerland than the EU, but lower for the UK?
It seems like they have, generally speaking, made up the numbers by dividing the total value of imports vs exports with that country. So if the USA imports $200,000,000 of stuff from Switzerland and exports $100,000,000, they’re saying that that means Switzerland has 50% effective tariffs against America (no, this does not make any goddamn sense, but it appears to be what they’re doing), and then “reciprocating” with half of that number, so 25% tariffs on Switzerland. 10% is the floor which they’re applying no matter what… except for on Russia, apparently
The UK presumably imports more American stuff, proportionate to exports, than the EU does
Russia is sanctioned (for now at least). For UK and other countries, probably they played some games on closed doors, during the white house visiting. We will see, i don’t gonna be surprised if UK buys military equipment from USA (or more that they were planning of).
Not sure if accurate, but probably Nestle.
So that’s a good thing? I’m confused
“let them fight”
It’s clear who Trump works for.
He really has it in for Lichtenstein
Really makes your teeth hurt. Probably due to a lack of dentist drills, most of which are made in Liechtenstein.
They have quite a lot of industry, e.g. Hilti and Thyssen Krupp Steering.