Gendered bathrooms should not need to exist because bathrooms should have some dammed privacy.
In the US, there’s a door for boys and one for girls. Behind each is a giant room with some sinks and some toilets that may as well be using cardboard and tinfoil for privacy.
Go somewhere more pleasant like Sweden? You have a short hallway with 3 or 4 doors on each side, and behind each is a small restroom including a sink and a mirror.
Every real and maga-hallucinated bathroom problem largely solved.
And if you wanna save money on too many sinks and such there is already a solution for that. Many places have the sink and mirror outside the bathroom and shared between both gendered bathrooms.
If you want to save time, money, and water, one of my favorite venues has toilets that have sinks on top of them so the water used to wash hands is collected in the tank as grey water to flush the toilet.
If you want to save even more time, piss in the sink while washing your hands.
Yes, they are pretty neat, at least the ones that pop up on the Internet
I love the idea behind gender neutral bathrooms, but I really wish they weren’t just a band-aid on the problem that is disgusting American bathrooms.
I didn’t realize how much better it could be until I went to Japan. Floor to ceiling walls, doors with curvature where the door and wall meet completely eliminating door gap, buttons to play music or water sounds…wtf America. Might as well be pissing in a prison in some bathrooms here.
Here’s a little known fact, gender neutral bathrooms are just bathrooms.
The gender neutral bathroom’s already in your house!
They are also in your neighbor’s house too! Get the pitchforks!
I can see the video where someone with a microphone asks people on the street:
“More and more households in the US are implementing gender neutral bathrooms, what is your opinion on this?”
My son goes to a gender neutral school, my daughter goes to a gender neutral daycare, I work in a gender neutral office, and shop at gender neutral shops.
It drives me crazy to see a single occupancy bathroom in a public space labeled as gender neutral… Just say bathroom… Or even worse they went out of the way to change it from bathroom to gender neutral… Looking at you taco bell…
This is in my hometown!! Absolutely one of my favorite spots. And I cheered out loud when I saw this response a couple days ago. I/O is legendary.
They should paint a door on a brick wall and label it “super male”. And have a sign saying “dorry you aren’t male enough”
“Why would we buy two”
I went to a board game convention a month ago, it was the first time I’ve girlmoded for something major. They put their own signs over the bathroom signs explaining that both were gender neutral and the only difference was urinals vs stalls. That made it soooo much easier on me and I was very glad
I’m a dude and i want stalls every time. I HATE pissing in a urinal next to a bunch of other people and get piss splashed on everything. So so so many bacteria.
There are well-designed urinals now that don’t splash back. Add to that, If there’s a divider, then the urinal is convenient, quicker and imo cleaner because you don’t have to touch the stall door or lock to close it and you’re not pissing on the seat or sitting down. It’s literally no-contact
If I can, and it’s clean, I always prefer to sit down to piss. I just want a break, man. Leave me alone for 5.
I think it’s so stupid that this is taboo.
I’ve heard about it being taboo, but I never understood how anyone would even know a guy’s doing this.
You can see feet under the stall door AC the recognize the shoes, or you might be walking into the restroom at the moment they exit the stall. That’s how you would know.
I think it’s dumb too
And how do you know they’re not taking a shit?
Real men shit in the urinals.
I love urinals, carefree pissing
And free cake!
That’s a breath mint, silly goose.
I want a urinal in a stall
Wish granted. It’s a stall with a urinal but the walls and door are plain clear glass.
As long as I’m not getting splashed then I’ll take it
Indeed, I’m a furry and a few conventions I go to, even in red states, have temporary rebranding of the bathrooms to gender neutral for the duration of the convention as a requirement that the Hotel must maintain in order to keep the convention’s business.
And since furries are either suspiciously wealthy or poor, but dedicated, it’s a wise economic decision for said Hotel.
Which happens to be exactly what the place in OP does.
I had assumed, hence my loosely related story
The fact that stalls exist kinda makes me question why, outside of poorly aged “values” we even have gendered restrooms.
because men’s restrooms are covered in piss
I identify as a man and accidentally went into the women’s bathroom at the supermarket.
It smelled like blood, tampons on the floor, and there was a woman crying in the stall.
I’ll take the piss floors.
From what I’ve heard from janitors, the women’s rooms can be outright disturbing. Like period blood murals on the wall.
“period blood mural” is a great punk or trash metal band name
Haha, I can tell you never cleaned retail bathrooms… *cries*
So are the women’s, men aren’t special.
I don’t know if it’s the reason, or just a side effect, but I’m pretty sure it prevents a bunch of sexual assault, or at least makes some people feel safer.
This is the justification.
My only comment to that is: the “women’s washroom” sign isn’t going to stop an attacker.
Right? A No Guns sign isn’t going to stop a shooting, but a Women Only sign will stop all rape forever!
Republican “logic”
But imagine how awkward that attacker must feel walking in there
- Trans people who don’t pass will also feel awkward walking in there, and many of them don’t. Often times, you’ll primarily just see people who pass going into the restroom matching their gender. Just the fact they identify as the gender doesn’t often mean even they are comfortable going in there, so it’s not like anyone presenting as masculine going into the women’s restroom is even a common occurrence in places where trans people are accepted
- Anyone who would be willing to visually change themselves to pass as the opposite gender doesn’t need “being trans” as a concept to do so, and could be just as willing to engage in that regardless.
- Gay people exist and they don’t feel awkward walking in to those spaces, yet could just as well engage in sexual assault of people matching their gender without anybody questioning their right to be there.
I feel like that’s the only justification I’ve ever really heard, but I find it to be rather flimsy. It assumes that someone willing to assault someone else would be deterred by a sign. It also assumes that assaults only happen across genders and not within, which is either very narrow-minded or willfully obstinate.
Personally, I would think individual unisex bathrooms that each contain their own sink would be the safest option. You enter fully aware and lock the door behind yourself, only leaving once you are fully aware and alert again. Given that the common area between stalls is essentially public, you could have cameras observing the entrance without invading privacy and capturing anyone attempting to force their way in or tailgate someone entering a stall. Better, safer, gender neutral.
My former college has gender neutral bathroom in the gym. I have never heard any issues in the many decades that it has been there. Besides, the wall of the toilet stalls are really high and there are no gaps underneath the stalls to dissuade peeping. Just do how my college did with gender neutral bathrooms.
It also assumes that assaults only happen across genders and not within, which is either very narrow-minded or willfully obstinate.
Ya know I’ve actually sat down and talked with my cisfriends on how they feel about the whole thing, way way back when the bathroom scares started… One thing they brought up that I didn’t even think about was “Do these Republicans not know that lesbians exist?”
Do these Republicans not know that lesbians exist?
Of course they do, they were using the exact same talking points against (cis) gay people before that proved to be unviable at the time, and they’ll drag the culture war back to that front if they get what they want with regard to suppressing trans people’s rights to exist as members of society.
“What kind of bathroom does your home have?”
Well, I guess since there are no urinals, it’s for women. Men will just have to find a tree or corner outside.
no urinals
That’s what the bathtub/shower is for!
Zapp Brannigan says YES.
Beyond gender, as a father of two girls, i fucking love gender neutral bathrooms. Your establishment has gn bathrooms you’ve doubled the odds of me returning.
Overhyped. i don’t like the comment above. they make it seem like a big thing. i don like these kinds of posts…
when a post has “absolute legend” as the title, that reads to me like a youtube title like “We DESTROYED <popular thing> FOREVER!” or “This EASY trick is a GAME CHANGER”. gooooddddd (im in complain mode now sorrii)
Smorty HATES this one simple comment
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The Smorty situation is CRAZY
Thanks y’all now I got new terms for my post filter
could u maybe tell me what u mean?.. I don understand :(
Oh sorry yeah it has nothing to do with you, I’m just filtering clickbait headlines in general <3
*nununununu!!!* please understand that I’m angry at the reddit post with the annoying youtube title, not the repost here on Lemmy. On thus post, “No” is a pretty good title I think. it’s not overselling it, it makes sense within the context of the funi and it’s not an overused buzzword.
the REDDIT POST on the other hand! it goes out of it’s way to be annoying. it repeats the the same meaning using different words. it pretends like this is a big thing: some employee replying with no to some comment about thir game. It’s boring, overblown and who cares. It would have been funier if the reddit person just reposted the post and didnot add a dum and long subtitle to it. WHAT IS THIS? prepare for my next game, named
Calm Compass: A side adventure in a parallel dimebsion. (very out of context, yes, srryy)have I now become the one to overblow and overreact? am I now saying the same thing with many words? YES! ON PURPOSE!
im sori next time I will ramble shorter.
Also
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i literally don get that >~<
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:o murderous AI? Woah! Is it like - really really scary or less so?
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Imagine the amount of small businesses that would be put under if they had to pay for vastly more bathrooms because someone can’t be creepy.
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Sez you! I do plenty of napping on the company shitter.
I wish reviews used a “web of trust” so I could discard votes by Anders Holmvik and anyone who agrees with him frequently.
You ever feeling like these echo chambers just aren’t echoing enough?
I can understand how “get rid of gender neutral bathrooms” is though-provoking intellectual discussion to you, but I’ve already considered that reactionary perspective enough to reject it.
I was making a joke about the broader concept. I think all bathrooms should be gender neutral.
But the broader concept is nonsensical. Filtering out idiots (glad you were joking!) who spam bad ideas isn’t creating an echo chamber. You’d spend all day listening to whoever is loudest.
Anders Holmvik
What a colossal piece of shit
Nah, this guy? Look at that smile.
Holmvik is the guy who shot a bunch of kids at a summer camp in Norway… I think. I forget the country.
Edit: Nope. Different person.
Mfw “rule” isn’t in the title:
“Finally.”
Uh… Does the username “Anders Holmvik” have anything to do with Anders Breivik, or is that just a normal Scandinavian name?
Anders Holmvik is one of the three main characters in the show Workaholics.
The character is played by actor and co-creator of the show Anders Holm.
Vik or vig, in Scandinavian languages, means inlet or bay and is rather common as part of a placename. Therefore also somewhat common as a family name, since these tend to reflect origin of a given family.
I can recommend the show, it is funny, albeit rather stupid.
They also have a podcast that is pretty dang funny, and I wasn’t even a huge workaholics fan.
Thanks, I’ll check it out!
