'House of the Dragon' Boss on George R.R. Martin Criticisms: Disappointing
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'House of the Dragon' showrunner Ryan Condal say it is disappointing that George R.R Martin publicly disagreed with changes the HBO series made.

‘House of the Dragon’ showrunner Ryan Condal say it is disappointing that George R.R Martin publicly disagreed with changes the HBO series made.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    35·
    3 days ago

    The full quote:

    “I will simply say, I made every effort to include George in the adaptation process. I really did. Over years and years. And we really enjoyed a mutually fruitful, I thought, really strong collaboration for a long time. But at some point, as we got deeper down the road, he just became unwilling to acknowledge the practical issues at hand in a reasonable way. And I think as a showrunner, I have to keep my practical producer hat on and my creative writer, lover-of-the-material hat on at the same time.”

    Quite frankly after what Dan and Dave to ruin Game of Thrones reputation, this honestly isn’t surprising whatsoever.

    They cut out a character to save money and air time, and George thinks that will make the plot fall apart later.

    Regardless of who’s right, he’s probably not going to trust a showrunner who’s trying to rush things given past trauma.

    • exasperation@lemm.eeEnglish
      14·
      2 days ago

      They cut out a character to save money and air time, and George thinks that will make the plot fall apart later.

      Counterpoint: GRRM has written himself into a corner and can’t actually finish his own story where he originally envisioned it.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        I mean, that’s entirely possible, based on the one account we have from the showrunner, it could be interpreted as the show runner is being greedy and George just wants art made right, or it could be read as George obsesses over these boring little details that no one else actually cares about and needs a better editor.

        My point was just that either way, this is how it was always going to go after Dan and Dave ruined the original series by rushing it. They’re lack of care and attention to detail may have been the final nail in the coffin for George ever letting people substantively edit him again, regardless of whether or not it would be beneficial.

        • exasperation@lemm.eeEnglish
          4·
          2 days ago

          I mean, that’s entirely possible, based on the one account we have from the showrunner

          I’m going off of the text of the books themselves getting bogged down with new characters and storylines, and the publication history:

          • A Game of Thrones (1996)
          • A Clash of Kings (1998)
          • A Storm of Swords (2000)
          • A Feast for Crows (2005)
          • A Dance with Dragons (2011)

          The current year is 2025. GRRM is 77 years old. There are supposed to be two books left. They’re never going to be published.

          Dan and Dave ruined the original series by rushing it

          My point is that there’s no way forward without abruptly pruning several storylines. Thus, the story is basically impossible to finish in a satisfying way, and this is all we’re gonna get from him.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            My point is that there’s no way forward without abruptly pruning several storylines. Thus, the story is basically impossible to finish in a satisfying way, and this is all we’re gonna get from him.

            I generally agree, but Dan and Dave fucked it up beyond all recognition. They were not the editor it needed.

    • janonymous@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      2 days ago

      He has worked in TV for quite a while, so I would assume he knows what he is talking about. On the other hand, I can also imagine that he has become a little too perfectionist for his own good.