Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 months agoChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlexternal-linkmessage-square144fedilinkarrow-up1850arrow-down12cross-posted to: [email protected]
arrow-up1848arrow-down1external-linkChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 months agomessage-square144fedilinkcross-posted to: [email protected]
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down1·2 months agoPlease let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
minus-squareSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOPMlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up17·edit-22 months agoWe need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·2 months agoAndroid is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did. And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
minus-squareangrystego@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·2 months agoLocal alternatives are not good enough. We need something that works internationally, otherwise it’s not a true alternative.
minus-squareObi@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 months agoIsn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·2 months agoNope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
minus-squareRenohren@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up3·edit-22 months agoThat was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 months agoWe also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy. But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
minus-square0x0@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·2 months ago Android is open source You sweet summer child…
minus-squareThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·2 months agoWe have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
Please let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
We need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
Android is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did.
And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
Local alternatives are not good enough. We need something that works internationally, otherwise it’s not a true alternative.
Isn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
Nope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
That was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
We also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy.
But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
You sweet summer child…
We have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
I’d love to see it.