Summary
Federal employees at multiple agencies were ordered to remove pronouns from email signatures by Friday, following executive orders signed by Donald Trump to eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs.
Agencies including the CDC, Department of Transportation, and Department of Energy issued directives citing the new policy.
Some employees expressed frustration, with one CDC worker calling it unprecedented.
The Office of Personnel Management also instructed agencies to disable pronoun prompts in email systems, marking another step in Trump’s broader rollback of DEI initiatives.
You mean to tell me the US government doesn’t have a system that controls employee signatures? Are they running Windows NT still???
-Luci (She/Her)
Federal employee here. We have to make our own email signatures. I have not been told to remove pronouns by an official channel, but I have already removed pronouns and switched to having Ms. infront of my name, cause it has the same effect and the administration is too stupid to know that.
You heard it here first, folks. Pronouns are out, prenouns are in.
Edit: although this is not inclusive for our non-binary friends. Open to suggestions on that one.
Mx maybe? Follows the same format but allows for it to be non gendering. Idk I have a feeling it might be incorrect or there maybe a issue with it having a x because of chromosomes.
"Mx? Must be Mexican. Or DNS specialist. "
although this is not inclusive for our non-binary friends. Open to suggestions on that one.
I’m by no means an expert here, but I think that’s what “Mx” is used for.
Antinouns
That’s way too dangerous without a containment field.
flashpanda has used two pronouns, “I” and “We”. Please remove these pronouns by the end of the day.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/pronouns-personal-i-me-you-him-it-they-etc
From now on flashpanda must to refer to flashpanda in third person like Solomon Grundy.
peoplebeproblems like this. peoplebeproblems recommend having everyone start referring to eachother in the full third person. Thank troybot, peoplebeproblems hope this catches on.
CileTheSane wants to know where Luigi is when CileTheSane needs him.
CileTheSane meant to say:
needs
himLuigi
How does that convey the same effect?
What if you are non binary?
Many nonbinary people use Mx. but that’s a personal decision.
One of my favorite sci fi authors simplified it to just “M.”
Mr., Mrs., Miss, Ms. can just be boiled down to “M.”.
If I actually cared, that’s probably what I’d pick.
To me, that just means “monsieur.”
I could see it working for that too!
I wouldn’t be surprised if there are still a few Novell Netware boxes out there.
OH GOD
I’ll have you know that I am an official paper CNE.
Pronouns should be used at the discretion of the individual. They should be able to choose who receives them, how it’s relayed, and what the pronouns will be. They should be able to change them whenever they want.
Putting this into a database such as active directory isn’t simple when it has requirements that I’ve stated.
It’s sometimes easier to just let the individual maintain their own signature.
We use a third party tool and a custom schema. Users can use a simple agent to update pronouns or make other adjustments like display their direct line. Works great, AD is still the source of truth.
Oh, no. No, no no. It’s much worse than that.
Hell if they were still on NT we’d be safer.
Lol, we on Citrix cant even set a signature anymore cuz outlook is screwed up
Actually it’s not Outlooks fault for once.
Is there a fix?.. 😐
Not sure about your issue, but for the borked Office login we are experiencing, there isn’t.
