• SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I really wish these protest signs had clear demands on them rather than comedic slogans.

      Also that “if Kamala were president we’d be at brunch” sign encapsulates everything that pisses me off about liberals.

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    Anyone else tear up or cry a little looking at these or am I just a big squishy baby? I have so many feelings looking at these, inspired, scared, even sometimes amused even if that’s followed immediacy disgust like the hotdog man photo, so many more feelings, feeling pretty proud of us too.

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    I’m honestly surprised Trump didn’t send the military to shoot and kill the protesters

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    I love seeing American flags. The pro-democracy crowd needs to take that back from the fascists and nationalists.

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      Totally in agreement, and I’ve left comments here before saying that the left needs to do as much. Maga got it in their heads that they’re the “true” Americans. The silent majority. They’re ignorant, and seeing all those stars and stripes in the crowds I think really drives down that point “No, we are real Americans, and we’re fucking fed up”. Compare these photos to the Jan 6 photos, which crowd looks like the real Americans?

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      One interesting thing at my local one in southern California: several people were waving large state flags. Lots of American flags as well, but I thought the state flags were interesting.

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      Yes - I’ve been doing this myself for a few years now. The anti-demicracy crowd doesn’t deserve the flag or other American paraphernalia.

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      Yes. It needs to be taken back. I’ve been thinking things like a large group of protesters saying the pledge of allegiance would be quite impactful as to who’s on the other side.

      Being arrested at a protest? Yell the pledge. See how they try to spin that.

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        I hosted a German exchange student in 2006. She, along with the other Germans, were aghast when they saw us all stand for the pledge to the flag in homeroom every morning. They explained that they were (rightly) taught that this kind of behavior is the precursor to horrible, horrible things.

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        The don’t need to spin anymore. They simply won’t show that footage to their viewers.

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      No thank you, the nationalists can keep their star-spangled rag. The “American ideal” always represented a settler-colonial project. Racism, classism, slavery, capitalism, conquest, and genocide are all built into the “American ideal” just as much as its nonideal implementations in the US government.

      Whatever modes of living come after America needs to be a clean break from its horrific legacy. America in all its forms is holding us back.

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        I don’t think your in the best in headspace

        You’ve described a period in history for every country, most of them today as well

        You’re just giddy it’s the u. S this time.

        I’m not insulting you. I get it. But it’s not exactly truethful

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          You’ve described a period in history for every country, most of them today as well

          Yes, I’m literally an anarchist. All states are at least classist, racist, capitalist, and enslavers to some degree. Any one of those would make states worthy of abolition IMO. Of course I oppose nationalism in all its forms. For a more nuanced (and less “giddy”) perspective, please see Section D.6 of the Anarchist FAQ.

          You’re just giddy it’s the u. S this time.

          I’m extremely cautiously optimistic that ordinary people are coming out to protests. And considering how after Trump 1.0, Democrats turned a blind eye to ICE, police violence, the COVID-19 pandemic, and the Gaza genocide once a Democrat was elected to office, all after showing up to Black Lives Matter protests during Trump 1.0…I’m more cautious than optimistic.

          I don’t think your in the best in headspace

          Please read my post/comment history. Yeah, life’s been a bit shit lately so I’m more upset about it, but I’ve been an open anarchist for as long as I’ve been on Lemmy.

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    I love that people are protesting, but the whole “no kings” thing? Really missing the fascist forest for the orange tree.

    Is Trump a fascist wannabe dictator? Yes.

    Is he a tumor who is killing American democracy? Yes.

    He’s not doing it alone, though, he didn’t pop up out of nowhere, and the underlying cancers that made his regime possible won’t just magically vanish when he hopefully succumbs to almost 80 years of bad diet and almost no exercise within the next couple of years.

    The GOP is a fascist party enabled by an effective disinformation machine creating not just a cult of personality around Trump himself, but also a cult of hate that is as united by hostility towards The Others as much as their adoration of the Mango Mussolini.

    Unless the DNC leadership and the protest organizers step up their messaging and starts listening to and representing the ignored third of the country to the Left of Ronald Reagan and the Cheneys, fascism won’t go away when the abomination currently infesting the oval office finally croaks.

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      You can make a little sign with whatever super important issue on it that you like. People did that. People understood that “No Kings” includes all the issues that come with being a king -or dictator.

      But the most important thing people did was show the fuck up.

      Just like with voting, a protest doesn’t do anything unless people show the fuck up.

      And just like with voting, there are loud, persistent voices online that bemoan doing anything at all because it just isn’t perfect enough for them.

      And you know what? It will never be perfect enough for those people. The real reason they complain is not about the level of perfection in the “messaging”. It’s that they are lazy shits. Or lazy shills.

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      I love that people are protesting, but why isn’t it perfect and exactly how I want them to do it?

      If you went to one of them, you’d see that they’re not just focusing on him.

      People out here complaining about these protests like it’s literally their job. Suspect.

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        why isn’t it perfect and exactly how I want them to do it?

        Burning Man called. They want their gigantic strawman back.

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            No, I was pointing out ineffective messaging and made the specific reasons clear.

            Which you dumbed down to your own level of rhetorical competence and insight, I guess 🤷

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              Well that was unnecessarily hostile. Just more evidence that you’re arguing in good faith…

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                No, that was justifiably peeved since you’re still insisting on misrepresenting my clearly stated point.

                If I was arguing in bad faith, I’d do something silly like reduce your argument to the most childishly simplified and egocentric possible interpretation and then insist on the accuracy of that after having the crux of the argument repeated just as clearly but more succinctly.

                Sound familiar?

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      It’s both human nature and the nature of protest. There’s a set theme or target and you rally around in. Protests aren’t actually places for nuisanced conversations about the specificities of who, what and where the problem is, they are ground swells to inspire, uplift and fight for change, it’s explicitly a “big picture” event, it’s not a discussion forum

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      No one is glossing over that.

      People need a face for an enemy. Nebulous constructs will not focus anger.

      People need to be focused, that’s what this does

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        No one is glossing over that.

        That’s just flat out false. The Dem leadership is still bending over backwards to make bipartisan deals with fascists who don’t negotiate in good faith and their messaging is all about messaging to almost-Trumpers about how HE is bad while not addressing the underlying problems. Some of which the Dems themselves are partly to blame for.

        People need a face for an enemy

        Yeah, that worked SUPER well when they lost to the most unqualified and personally repulsive person to ever run for president TWICE and only BARELY beat him while he was actively ignoring an ongoing pandemic 🙄

        Nebulous constructs will not focus anger.

        There’s nothing “nebulous” about concentration camps, systemic discrimination, complete subservience to a madman, and specific policy that is ruinous to regular people while further enriching the already extremely rich and powerful.

        There’s SO much more than only Trump to focus on for the Dem leadership, which would be MUCH more effective in appealing to the actual concerns of regular people and thus increasing voter participation, which would doom the GOP to obscurity in a few cycles if done right.

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          Did you go to the protests?

          Edit: I’ll take the downvote as a no. So I’ll leave you with this: keep your doomer bullshit to yourself, shut the fuck up, and get out of the way.

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          Dude. Chill.

          No one is glossing over it means we see it. Yes we know. Your ascribing malice to everyone pell neel without seeing that yep, the lawmakers are the issue, but the people aren’t b

          We are fighting

          We are not glossing anything over.

          You cannot fight wars on multiple fronts we cannot focus on every single focus point it is not feasible

          Trump is the head of the snake. Not the only snake, but right now he’s the head

          Now focus. Stop panicking. Worked with each other. We need to stop letting the overwhelming amount of crap they are thwpring out there blind you

          Remove trump, and it proves the people are in charge and we can remove anyone

          See your listing the issues, that’s fine. But that doesn’t help focus

          Part of the reason occupy Wall Street failed was a lack of focus, cohesion and unity. Infighting, separate agendas.

          That’s what’s happening now, and your post is a symptom. You’re not stupid, hell your not wrong about any of those issues being important, but your running in circles trying to trying to stop a flood of water with buckets, when we just have to turn off the spout.

          It’s hard to turn that spout and it won’t be done tomorrow, but if we focus, we can

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            your running in circles trying to trying to stop a flood of water with buckets, when we just have to turn off the spout.

            What a great analogy. You have a way with words

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            I swear I think people’s egos just like to argue for the sake of argument and being intellectually “correct” rather than actually trying to understand the other person and their point of view. Reddit was especially awful with this, which was why I left.