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  • KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee
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    Neither did the Palestinians.

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
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      Not the people, but didn’t a Palestinian group attack a concert dropping from parachutes? Then Israel ran with that to drop bombs on innocent children, iirc.

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        If you ignore everything else from the last century, yes.

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    Don’t worry, islamofascists. The Israelis will ‘end’ it for you.

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    They have the right to defend themselves, right?

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    Zionist Corporate media framing this as a “preemptive strike” is Orwellian bullshit.

    • Default Username@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Trump got out of the Iranian nuclear deal in his first term specifically so either Israel and/or the USA would have a “reason” to attack and go to war.

    • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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      Why do you need “Zionist corporate” in that post? Any media calling this a “preemptive strike” are pushing a bs narrative.

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        Because corporate media in the West, especially the US and UK complies with Zionist talking points.

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          And? What about non-Zionist non-corporate sources that back the same narrative? Would you see that as any different?

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            Non corporate i.e. independent news tends to have clearer perspectives on the genocide and Zionism’s malign influence in domestic and international politics

            One example is not adopting Zionist talking points and perspectives (e.g. rapes, beheaded babies), without critical analysis or framing October 7th in the context of the Zionist regime’s occupation of Palestine. Something Corporate media deliberately obfuscates.

            Corporate media uses rhetorical shielding like the use of the passive “Palestinians killed in bombings” to avoid blaming Israel or “Hamas run health ministry” to discredit casualty reports.

            Another issue is that they also fail to report what Israelis actually tell their people (“fighting human animals”, “babies are targets”) and rather rely on carefully scripted official responses in English.

            Yet another issue is that they do not mention ICC arrest warrants on Netanyahu and Smotrich, or that Israel is on trial for genocide at the ICJ, or Indeed that western countries are ignoring the genocide convention which obliges them to sanction Israel and instead are actively arming and supporting it.

            They omit so much given what’s on social media and elsewhere that it has never been more obvious that Western media’s role is to act as interlocutor and propagandist for the Empire.

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      Irans going to invade by paragliders launched from Damavand!???!

  • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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    Yeah…

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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      Grok received a big “both sides” patch recently

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        I wouldn’t know I don’t follow twitter. Just found it funny that someone asked it to explain in pirste speak

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    Is this real?

    • Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
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      I’ve been asking this repeatedly since 2016.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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      https://xcancel.com/IRIran_Military/status/1933318008274817296

      • Maeve@kbin.earth
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        Those replies 🧐

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          Lol I get the hate for Twitter and AI, but this actually got a chuckle out of me.

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      No

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    Me when the #1 terrorism sponsor doesn’t get to have nukes:

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      The US and Israel already has nukes, they don’t need to get them

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        The US is the #1 sponsor, not Israel

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          Israel does an incredible amount of terrorism at the behest of the US

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            They’re the one being sponsored not the one sponsoring others

            However as a UN recognized member they are committing war crimes not terrorism

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              Israel is an extension of US foreign policy, it’s much more than being sponsored by the US like Al Qaeda. Israel also does work with and sponsor the likes of ISIS and Al Qaeda. They are committing war crimes and terrorism, just as a state actor instead of a non-state actor

              It doesn’t seem like we’re in any real disagreement here so it’s all good, Free Palestine

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                just as a state actor instead of a non-state actor

                This is the difference between these two

                war crimes and terrorism

                But we are in agreement

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        Cute and original, keep it up and you’ll have a full comedy career :)

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      Huh? They have thousands of nukes

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        They invented the nukes.

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          And used them for the aforementioned terrorism

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      Step 1: Accuse nation of having nukes

      Step 2.1: If they do not have nukes, invade them and dont even apologise for the death of hundreds of thousands

      Step 2.2: If they acquired nukes by the time you accused them, sanction them to shit and use media to turn the land into a dystopian hellscape akin to North Korea or worse

      Step 3: Create puppet regime if they ever fall, replace leaders with those that support laissez-faire

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        Worked with Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, they attempted it with China and now it is time for Iran

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      usa does have nukes tho 😎

    • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      deleted by creator

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    I mean, they kinda did

    they wanted to make WMDs first

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      Israel has been saying this about Iran since the 1990s. All the nuclear inspectors say that Iran is following the standards.

      Edit: see below. Some very recent reporting shows that they may not have been compliant (they were before). We will probably need more evidence to determine if they recently were not.

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        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/12/un-nuclear-watchdog-says-iran-non-compliant-of-nuclear-safeguards

        https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-9-june-2025

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          True, they did say that. But I’m not sure if we can fully trust them, seems like there may have been collusion with Israel. If someone knows more or has evidence of what the IAEA is claiming please let me know.

          Source: https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/tehran-unravels-documents-revealing-secret-iaea--israel--col

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            I think you should revise your previous comment to put an asterisk to avoid losing credibility noted in your response to the other guy

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              Fair enough

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        source?

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          Netanyahu speaking about Iran as a threat since 30 years ago: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/13/benjamin-netanyahu-attack-iran-israel-us-nuclear

          Iran has been (mostly) compliant until very recently (2 days ago): https://www.newsweek.com/iran-fails-meet-nuclear-obligations-first-time-20-years-2084393

          We may need more to verify what the IAEA said as there may be collusion with Israel: https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/tehran-unravels-documents-revealing-secret-iaea--israel--col

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      Israel has a larger nuclear arsenal right now.

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        Israel doesn’t fund terrorism like iran

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          Who are the ISIS-linked, aid-stealing Gaza militia supported by Israel?

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          They cut out the middleman for efficiency and do it themselves

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          Israel literally funded Hamas against the PLO in Gaza.

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      Israel is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons. Estimates of Israel’s stockpile range between 90 and 400 nuclear warheads, and the country is believed to possess a nuclear triad of delivery options: by F-15 and F-16 fighters, by Dolphin-class submarine-launched cruise missiles, and by the Jericho series of intermediate to intercontinental range ballistic missiles.

      Israel maintains a policy of deliberate ambiguity, never officially denying nor admitting to having nuclear weapons, instead repeating over the years that “Israel will not be the first country to introduce nuclear weapons to the Middle East”. However, in November 2023, amid the Gaza war, the junior Heritage Minister Amihai Eliyahu publicly called for dropping a nuclear bomb over Gaza, which some took to be a tacit admission that Israel possesses such a capability.

      I wouldn’t be so sure of that.

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      deleted by creator

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    Doesn’t Iran regularly shoot missiles and drones at Israel? I’m not really up to speed but I’m sure there was something about an Iron Dome?

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      No

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      I might be wrong in this, but I’m pretty sure it’s exceedingly rare for Iran to directly fire missiles at Israel, it’s usually Iran-supplied proxies doing it (such as Hezbollah). It’d be like making the argument that anyone at war with a US backed nation/faction has a carte blanche to attack America

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        Two of them. Israel is fucking awful but that doesn’t mean I’m going to support authoritarian Iran.

        2024 Iranian strikes against Israel - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iranian_strikes_against_Israel

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          Brother, I have in laws in Iran. The regime is a brutal pile of dog turd, but at least they have the decency to just cultural genocide the kurds and not do an actual one.

          They aren’t the good guys, they are the smaller pile of shit.

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          Iran said it was retaliation for the Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus on 1 April,[17] which killed two Iranian generals.

          Iran claimed that the attack was an act of “self-defense”[19][20] in retaliation for Israel’s assassinations of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, and IRGC general Abbas Nilforoushan.

          Does it change anything if both of those attacks were after an Iranian embassy was bombed and an assassination in Iran’s capital took place?

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          Right, so go on and support genocidal Israel, because it’s soooo much better than authoritarian Iran.

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            Huh? Both can be awful.

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        Right, and that’s an argument that could and should be made imo.

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      No, that is the people Israel keeps in their concentration camp.

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