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Not a problem. If I managed a distro, I’d have already dropped Gnome back in, like, 36, in favor of MATE and XFCE anyway.
Bad idea.
Mind elaborating?
Not OP, so i’ve got no idea why they think it’s bad, but systemd breaks with unix’s key design principles, and monopolizes and absteacts more and more aspects of system management. Some people do not like this.
A while ago I read through the classic Unix Programming Environment from 1984 while trying out the things described on a Debian system. I like the unix philosophy. Ken is a genius. ed is the standard editor. The more I read though, the more I was thinking that this just isn’t how we use computers today. I think Linux is trying to be two things at once. On the one hand it’s sort of a UNIX-clone, on the other hand it’s a black box that our containers and browsers and applications rest on. I’m not sure why we are heading towards less and less UNIX, but it seems to be by popular demand?
IMHO, you cannot apply the UNIX philosophy to a GUI.
It’s not like GNOME adhere to the UNIX design principles in the first place.
Also, I get that they’d want to streamline their stuff.
They literally describe their infra as “Gnome OS”. They spoke loudly in the previews to Gnome 3 against terminal users having the right to customize their terminal. They want every Gnome install to carry and be limited to the “Gnome brand”. They are drunk on the corporate kool-aid and I would surmise it won’t be long before we see Activate your Gnome account" and “GnomePilot”, considering they are also drunk on Microsoft influences.
They are, currently, a net negative for the classial Linux experience.
This makes no sense. GnomeOS is the operating system Gnome uses to test their software: https://os.gnome.org/. What is wrong with this? What the hell is “the right to customize your terminal”? And how does this imply that gnome is corporate at all?? They are making 0 dollars off of users by doing this. There’s a tiny chance they just want to make something different. You don’t have to like it or use it, but its pretty obvious you don’t even understand it and haven’t made any attempt to.
In that sense, CosmicDE coming out of alpha in hopefully a year might provide a decent alternative of Gnome does go astray.
More reliance on something is always bad. If the component dies, becomes closed source, implements telemetry etc it will be harder to replace it.
We should start preparing to jump ship from Linux. There’s just too much reliance on it and that’s ALWAYS bad.
Systemd is open source. If it goes closed source, nobody would use it anymore and switch to a fork.
Actually there is not much reliance on the mainstream kernel. Forks work just fine.
Pray tell, whenever there’s a new release of the kernel, what do these forks do? Point being nobody has hard forked the kernel and seen any success, its just not possible to keep up. There is still undoubtedly a hard dependency on the kernel by lots of software, just as lots of operating systems and software rely on systemd. In a world where these things were closed source, dependence is dangerous, but because they’re open source and so heavily depended on by the open source community, more people using it makes it better in much the same way it does for Linux.
Hopefully they will make an abstraction layer like you always should.
