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Buses are wider than cars.
Just look at this picture they’re clearly much wider.
Imagine explaining euclidean shapes with it’s wider, so it’s wider’ …
But what the kid was asking is why arent cars designed to carry more people with all that wasted space & resources.
They weren’t. They were a kid not an Internet hipster with no concept of delivery vehicles, disabled people, people with children or pets, people whose jobs and family lives require them to be able to leave and go somewhere at the drop of a hat, and people from tiny boutique nations founded before cars with excellent public transport that can quite easily get along without a car.
It would take me about 2.5 hours to get to work from home by bus. Each way. On a good day. With two transfers each way.
In case anybody’s curious, buses are generally much wider than cars (my local buses are 8’6”, compared to the 6’6” Honda Odyssey); their seats are also narrower and the walls thinner, which adds up to a lot of interior space.
You mean to tell me that the laws of physics don’t breakdown inside buses?
They also have vertical walls instead of curved because maximizing interior space is new important than aerodynamics for them.
Two feet wider, but at least they don’t need to park in conventional spots. Except shit like Escalades exist, which are close to 8’ and are impossible to see around when I’m trying to back out of a spot.
I always love when I’m stuck between two small-penis-mobile trucks in a parking space.
It’s why when I do drive, I drive a compact. I can’t imagine trying to get out of a car or into one with two of those monstrosities around me.
I drive a small truck (Santa Cruz) and I always have to chuckle about how mine looks like a hot wheels car next to the lifted monstrosities around here.
This is why, whenever I can, I back into parking lot spots. It’s much safer to back into a space because it has no oncoming traffic, just 2 parked cars to squeeze between and one to stop before hitting it. And then I drive out frontways so I can see. My Odyssey rear camera is very helpful for parking but useless for seeing someone zooming out of left field.
That’s a good idea, actually. I should probably get into the habit of it, I just have a bad pre-camera mentality.
I started by always backing into my apartment space when I come home from work, as a little gift to morning me who’s always in a hurry. It’s also one of the things they say people should do during wildfire season, and probably applies to most emergencies.
Yet, they ride on the same streets (for the most part). Fuck cars! Furthermore, oftentimes they only carry 1 person and create all the congestions…
Yeah, but how wide is a bus compared to a Sebring?
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Because thats not how it works at all, Busses are much wider than cars.
For now. Cars keep getting wider year over year until they hit legal limits.
ford coming out with a 2-seater “bus” so they can release a truck that’s 14 feet off the ground and gets 4 gallons a mile
Ford has been making the f650 for over 20 years
Edit; it gets 6mpg btw
I don’t think those are street legal in the US though. We have one at my work but it can only be used on private property.
They are designed specifically to be street legal commercial vehicles (aka no CDL required) in most US states.
I’ve seen a handful of them on the road over the years. There used to be a red one that must’ve been owned locally as I saw it a number of times.
I could be wrong. It might just be the one they have at my job isn’t street legal, but maybe they are overall.
More like your states registration is by weight and your company ain’t trying to pay that shit lol
That truck looks like shit with those wheels. Hell it would look like shit on any wheels
Edit: oh I see, it’s supposed to be used for powerline maintenance with a lift installed in the back, not like a regular pickup
Don’t those things literally have a bus variant though?
Yeah, you can haul 30+ people
You can haul 6 tons of dirt, gravel, anything
Or you have a micropenis
From factory, those things are meant to be box trucks, dump trucks or tow trucks. Heavy duty work trucks. Not actually Ford’s fault that idiots put pickup beds on the back and use them as their commuter. If you have a truck that big and it does have a flatbed at least, you’re just a weekend warrior with issues.
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Yeah, anyone who has biked in city streets will tell you that the buses are much wider than even the big SUVs.
2x insulation, 2x windows motors, wider seats per person, and busses are actually noticeably wider than cars. Cars should take up between 1/2 and 2/3 of the lane they actually occupy, while busses and big rigs puch a lot closer to the actual width of a car lane.
Cars should take up between 1/2 and 2/3 of the lane they actually occupy
tell that to the stupid F-150s. 2 Seats, no aisle, and subjectively wider than a bus
Between 1988 and now the f150 only increased in width by .9 of an inch. Parking spots are set by the size of the f150 because they are consistent and abundant.
Yeah but they were massive to start with, they’ve always been huge.
Europe has smaller parking spaces because Europe point blank refused to accommodate larger vehicles just because. The US is so obsessed with cars that the idea of going “no that thing is stupidly big we’re not accommodating it”, is not an acceptable thought.
Europe didn’t refuse to accommodate larger vehicles. The simply couldn’t. All the towns are significantly older than the oldest town in the USA. The town streets are narrower, and can’t support the weight of larger vehicles. If there wasn’t that constraint, there would be ltz suburbans everywhere.
That’s because it has to accommodate wide arses. If you ever sit in one of their seats you just sort of get lost.
I also feel dumb now because of this child I’ve never met.
But now I’m flashbacking to being on a schoolbus and holy fuck those walls are thin.
those walls are thin.
I’ve seen pictures of buses that accidentally fall off a steep road or cliff and basically fold like a flattened cardboard box.
I think most vehicles would have a pretty rough go of it if they fell off of a cliff though, especially if they turned upside down.
Smaller seats and slightly wider both sides.
But could it be twice as wider on one side, and not wider on the other?
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Some buses have 2 seats on one side and only a row of single seats on the other side of the aisle, probably because they made that side not was wide as the other 🤔
Could be; isn’t
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The knight bus
A bus used for an activity that requires a bed?
I had a friend in university who loved trolling a girl. He told her that we should boycott American and British goods, and that he had made a website to help: BanGBUS.com
She actually went away to look at the site.
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Stop thinking you communist little shit! Need to stop buses so can sell more crrrs!
Now to make them really mad, think about how clean the air, how silent the streets were if we ONLY had buses. How technologically interesting they would be, with hepa filters so people dont get sick and have less argument for individual cars.
Don’t sing the buses any praises yet. The dark incentive to carry more people means the seats are quite rigid, vertical, bad quality and narrow in both directions. All in the name of transporting people like cattle (and for pretty much the same purpose). I can’t sit in my city’s new buses because my legs literally don’t fit on the seat to the knees before hitting the next seat, even if I manspread. Have been asking around if other people are having this issue because I intend to file a legal case.
You’re one of the few gangly ass tall guys with this issue, millions of people use busses without such issues, by this same logic you must think planes are a terrible form of travel as well, cause you can’t fit in those seats with cramped leg room
Oh I think we can all agree airplane seats are the shittiest and airplanes are a terrible mode of travel, the whole experience has become godawful. If people had any other option that could transport them far distances quickly, they’d take it.
At least veniasulente does USE the buses even though they’ve become so uncomfortable. And filing a legal case is one way to prevent them from becoming even more cramped. You know, the reason airline seats/aisles are so shitty is because they got the government to carve out exceptions for them from the ADA decades ago, so you CAN’T file a legal claim.
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Probably I would but I can’t realistically pay for a plane ticket in this economy lol.
Oh well I’ll never know.
But I did fit in older buses without issues, which means the buses are being shrinkflationed for capitalism. (I can’t have grown 8 cm in one year yet kept using the same clothes, can I?)
Yeah, those evil vehicles of capitalism, checks notes buses…
I’d say “you gotta move the workforce efficiently” but… well, if that was the case the world would be trains.
Yeah that part might be true, although I don’t think they’ve made it as bad as plane seats yet, and there’s usual a few seats with nothing in front of them, like the ones for disabled people or the ones that are parallel to the bus walls
Yeah that part might be true, although I don’t think they’ve made it as bad as plane seats yet
Yeah from what I hear now that I’m asking around, we’re not even close XD.
It sounds like your transit system has the good problem of needing to accommodate more passengers. Why not ask your local authorities (transit authority, city council, etc) to look into upgrading these busier routes to trams or even heavy rail? That way they could add A LOT more capacity without having to make the experience so uncomfortable, and they’d save money in the long run.
Thanks. Fortunately, there is actually a (one) light rail project under study, it just happens to not cover my general area. Hopefully if it goes ahead and works, it’d mean there’ll be more. But it has my support in the meantime!
I wanna take this chance to really encourage you to get out there and let people know you want to see this project and want to see more like it. In general, the majority of people who show up to these meetings are the NIMBYs who simply ask that everybody drive an $80,000 tank and run over anyone on a bicycle. We could really use your voice.
I’ll see what I can do. Things like mass transportation should be relevant in this area with a noticeable population and construction growth, but there’s an underlying facet that most of the “room” that was at some time in the past thought of for setting up two train lines, was already used to construct bikeways because the train projects were taking too long to even get past proposal stage. In our situation people want to see things that can be done fast, and historically here train is not one of them.
I think you mean man spreading.
Also you could just stand you 7 foot tall behemoth
I’m 187cm (like 6’2 or something) and I have this issue. Anything that’s not a 4 seater on buses or regional trains will lead to my knees pressing into the seat in front if I don’t sit perfectly upright (which isn’t a great option for a 90+ minute train ride). Some bus seats have so little leg space that I flat out cannot fit without sitting diagonally (they’re actually worse than the last cheap airline I flew with somehow, tho tbf that was like 8 years ago and might be worse now).
When these buses come once every 15 minutes at peak time, it’s not even really a capacity issue, frequency could absolutely be higher if desired. Though 4 seaters existing means it’s generally fine, and my bus rides generally aren’t long enough that I can’t just stand instead. Designing a bus with that little leg room without 4 seaters would be a real issue though. Accomodating everyone and efficiency for the average person will always be a balance to strike, but everyone for whom it’s feasibly possible should at least have some option to be comfortable on public transport.
I fucking hate being tall.
I take the bus home after a long day of work. Among the last things I want is stand; if I wanted to, I’d actually demand it be treated as paid overtime. Fuck terminal capitalism.
And yes I meant manspreading. I had to edit when I realized some 5 minutes after the fact.
Hey, points for using the bus system (even if it’s because $) despite its faults. Consider about ways those cramped seats hamper people with various disabilities (canes/crutches/oxygen) and perhaps the % of population vs the number of “handicap seats” as you think about how to file a claim.
6’ 1 3/4" and occasionally face (knee?) same issue.
In my opinion manspreading is voluntary inconsiderate behavior, not manspreading if forced by infrastructure.
