Summary

Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

  • @[email protected]
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    10 days ago

    I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden. I voted for Clinton.

    I still wouldn’t warn a single one of them if they were about to get hit by a bus.

    Its harm reduction. They don’t solve anything. They just keep us treading water sinking slowly whereas Republicans start taking a hammer to the hull to open up new holes.

    • @[email protected]
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      6710 days ago

      I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden. I voted for Clinton.

      I still wouldn’t warn a single one of them if they were about to get hit by a bus.

      American Democracy in a nutshell. You get two choices, they’re both awful for different reasons. One of them wants to see you executed for your religious beliefs/sexual preferences/nation of origin. The other is continent to sell bunker buster bombs to some raving psychotic mass murderers overseas. Nobody is going to do shit about climate change, though, so we’re all on the clock in the long run.

      Its harm reduction.

      It increasingly feels like the closest thing to harm reduction the US achieved was the time Trump fucked up his COVID response and a bunch of his senior leadership choked to death on their own lung fluid.

      • Cruxifux
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        1310 days ago

        There’s only one man who’s done any meaningful harm reduction in your country and your judicial system is charging him with terrorism.

      • @[email protected]
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        910 days ago

        American Democracy in a nutshell. You get two choices, they’re both awful…

        The democratic process doesn’t start on election day.

        • @[email protected]
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          210 days ago

          Liberal democracy starts with the donors in a smoke-filled room and ends with one side complaining that the election was rigged.

        • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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          810 days ago

          Yeah, it starts when someone has a billion dollars and wants to influence government.

            • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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              610 days ago

              I’m not giving another dime to the Democratic Party so it’s more like 9,999,999 Democrats.

              I wouldn’t even be in the party if we didn’t have closed primaries in my state.

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                9 days ago

                fair enough.

                1 million American leftists x $100 to Bernie Sanders or AOC in the primaries = $100 million

                and

                1 million American leftists x $100 to Green party = $100 million

            • @[email protected]
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              Yes give them more money, they’re doing such great things with the money that’s already given to them.

        • @[email protected]
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          It started well into the election cycle after Biden refused to honor his one term pledge.

          No time for a primary now! Oops didn’t mean to! /$

          First Past The Post voting has got to go, or else the USA is toast. A shame the democratic party believes themselves to be more important then the country itself.

      • @[email protected]
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        1810 days ago

        There was roughly 20 different elected positions on my ballot.

        The real problem with American politics is everyone is so focused on the POTUS that they ignore the politicians who have an actual measurable effect on their quality of life.

        I challenge anyone to look up your local town hall and see when the next city council meeting is. Go to it and see what they talk about and vote on. Notice the other people who go.

        Many cities have public meetings for police oversite too. They’re even less attended than city council meetings

        • Logi
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          49 days ago

          Another massive problem is the voting system which could barely be designed better for forcing a two party system on you. There is no room for someone getting 30% of the vote and of course they should then have about that much influence.

        • @[email protected]
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          1810 days ago

          I challenge anyone to look up your local town hall and see when the next city council meeting is. Go to it and see what they talk about and vote on. Notice the other people who go.

          I’ve been to a few city council meetings. When you’re there as part of an organization lobbying for a particular policy, you can at least see the terms of the debate and understand who to lobby, what the blockades are, and why a seemingly good-idea isn’t getting through. But if you’re just sitting in on meetings, its like tuning into CSPAN at a random point in the day. You’ve got no historical context. You don’t know who you’re listening to or why they’re talking. And there’s a ton of maneuvering going on behind the scenes that you can’t glimpse because you’re not really a part of it.

          Add to the problem, a lot of people aren’t really wedded to their communities. I live in a neighborhood in which people move in and out every five years or so, chasing a better job or looking for better schools or trying to find more garage space for their giant cars or cashing out on a sudden jump in their home price. Trying to get them engaged in a fight over the ten-year-plan for mass transit is basically impossible because most of them won’t be here in ten years.

          I don’t say this to discourage anyone from going. But this isn’t something you can just bootstrap your way into. You really need a community of more knowledgeable and engaged people to introduce you to what is going on and why. Otherwise, you’re just listening to a couple of people argue over the preferred way to renovate municipal drainage on the opposite side of town for an hour.

          • @[email protected]
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            1110 days ago

            I gotta keep moving because my rent keeps going up. Let’s hope I find that cheaper basement

      • @[email protected]
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        1610 days ago

        It increasingly feels like the closest thing to harm reduction the US achieved was the time Trump fucked up his COVID response and a bunch of his senior leadership choked to death on their own lung fluid.

        Herman Cain approves this message.

      • @[email protected]
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        19 days ago

        I generally agree with your point, but the MIC is a bad example; both parties are equally happy selling bombs to murderers.

    • @[email protected]
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      510 days ago

      Same.

      But there’s not enough willing to hold their noses for us to reliably win elections.

      So it doesn’t make sense to blame anyone besides the people at the DNC actively stopping the type of candidates those people would love to vote for and instead cramming someone the majority of the party dislikes down our throats and hoping enough hold their noses.

      Like, not even from a perspective of which policy is better, just on the basis of what wins elections…

      Why isn’t the DNC backing the candidates who are most popular with Dem voters?

      Why do they keep picking the ones that will get the most donations, then trying to use that money to build up to less than the support the popular candidate already had?

      And why the fuck is anyone blaming anyone besides them?

      • @[email protected]
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        310 days ago

        And why the fuck is anyone blaming anyone besides them?

        Because if the democrats can deflect blame (again) they don’t have to deliver the change obama promised all those years ago.

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    Biden admin is currently fully cleansing Gaza and starting on the West Bank. There is little Trump can do worse.

        • @[email protected]
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          Fun fact, Palestinians on the ground preferred Biden/Harris to Trump.

          I need to find the survey again, but yeah, at least in the West Bank, they know that Trump will be an active and willing partner in the genocide.

    • @[email protected]
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      119 days ago

      Just wait until Trump disbands NATO and Russia starts turning the rest of the Baltics into Ukraine. Then bets are off as to whether you are even smart enough to realize… oh, never mind.

    • @[email protected]
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      910 days ago

      The utterly bizarre thing to me is I don’t really think he’s tried to hide any of this. Like he’s pretty much doing what he said he was going to do, he’s done it before, why did anyone think he was going to do anything different?

      • @[email protected]
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        210 days ago

        Before the election he did try and deny any connection to or intent around project 2025 - of course the mainstream media never called him on that bullshit.

  • @[email protected]
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    410 days ago

    We’re going to be seeing a lot more of these posts as the next year progresses. Unless we can miraculously have another higher ramp mangione clone perform his magic

    • Queen HawlSera
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      310 days ago

      I mean, if we can convince the school shooters to stop killing school children and aim later in a quite literal sense…

  • @[email protected]
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    3610 days ago

    Well, this is all very fucking stupid. WHAT THE FUCK did they think was going to be the outcome? Did they really think donvict was going to be better here?

    • Queen HawlSera
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      610 days ago

      They were caught up in the moment and fell into the trap of thinking the current moment will last indefinitely.

  • @[email protected]
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    1910 days ago

    Well, after four years of Trump we aren’t going to have to concern ourselves with Palestine, because it’s going to be “more Israel”. Thanks to these dumbasses. The leopards will be obese crime feasting.

  • @[email protected]
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    4410 days ago

    Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

    Dipshits

    • Queen HawlSera
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      2110 days ago

      I voted for the Westboro Baptist church because I’m a transwoman dating a cisman and I imagine that putting them in a position of power over me can only go well. /s

    • rustydomino
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      010 days ago

      I’m not disagreeing that leopards face an obesity epidemic but it’s also very interesting that to r image you posted has a “紅星新聞” (Chinese) or “Red Star News” watermark.

      • Laurel Raven
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        19 days ago

        It’s all the faces they’ve been eating, they’re having a banger year of it apparently