• intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    6 days ago

    Trolling and disagreeing are not the same thing.

    I am someone who “loves to disagree”, as in most of my engagement on lemmy is disagreeing. But that’s because I speak up when I feel like speaking up is needed, and when I feel like it’s needed is when what I believe is not being said.

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    6 days ago

    I’ve been online since 1995. And back in those days, about the worst argument people had was Star Wars vs Star Trek. That’s because the general online population at that time valued fact-based discussion and proper sources. Not like today, where someone’s feelings seem to trump actual fact.

    If I post 1+1=2 with proper sources, some idiot is bound to come along to argue that 1+1=tomato soup, that the moon is made of aged brie and that 5G on phones is turning frogs gay. It’s exhausting.

    There’s simply too many blithering idiots online who reject facts. And unfortunately instead of blocking them, people engage. Thus giving them incentive to keep doing it.

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      6 days ago

      Disclaimer, nostalgia glasses may color experiences in a slightly more positive light than it really was.

  • 800XL@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    This is one of those stupid articles that are like “water is wet says a new study” and far more people than it should be say “holy fuck it’s wet when I wash things. It must mean I wash things with water. Omgomgomgomg!!”

    No shit users are trolls on reddit.

  • Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I just call it out immediately and shut people down. I spend countless hours researching and reading and I don’t have time for devil’s advocates anymore. Here on Lemmy I will just block them and in real life I just tell them homie I don’t play that.

  • Lit@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Playing Devil’s Advocate. has been around way before the internet.

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      7 days ago

      Omg no it isn’t!

      This is literally the point, there is a clear difference between a hegelian dialectic and brute-force manichaeanism.

      Social media has allowed us to perceive the one as the other.

      Now everybody thinks they’re the only righteous ones and anyone who deviates from their strict opinion dogma is evil.

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    7 days ago

    Yes some people love to argue. I get it, I think arguing with others is fun. It’s not so great online tho. It’s empty and soul-less.

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    7 days ago

    Sounds like that antiyank guy. Always looking for the latest drama.

    Probably a lot of russian trolls as well

  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    I didn’t need ai to tell you that

    I could have told you that 20 years ago

    It’s why people find multiplayer games fun

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      6 days ago

      It doesn’t even sound like a reasonable study to undertake honestly, how many times do you comment on something just to say you agree? Mostly people just read it and move on, maybe upvote.

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    8 days ago

    those are the people who no one irl talks to anymore because they impulsively take the opposing stance, regardless of how stupid that stance may be, any time anyone says anything

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      Yup and guess what they are way more vocal online since they can still have an audience there and this is one of the reasons social media sites are so skewed from representing generalizable opinions. It’s a contrarian incubator.

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      7 days ago

      I play devil’s advocate in most friend-space conversations, it’s just who I am, I don’t do it disrespectfully (I hope) but it’s just the first thing my brain goes to.

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        sometimes it’s good to examine things from all angles; i’m mostly talking about people who will start arguing if you say “nice weather today”-- shit gets old quick

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        6 days ago

        I know that guy he told me he knows of a colleague who was convinced that the earth is spherical and vaccines are great.