There’s a lot of people who resent that things ever changed for women, and have spent every moment since trying to put things back to the way they were. I’ve worked for a lot of them. I’ve definitely been expected to get coffee, been told not to speak to male coworkers unless absolutely necessary, been told that I dressed too well and it was tempting male coworkers to sin, been told there was something mentally wrong with me because I didn’t “take care of myself” by wearing more makeup, been blamed for work conflicts I wasn’t involved in because I should’ve been the peacemaker. All in the last 10 years. But, yeah, I’m glad I can use birth control legally.
Holy crap! That is dreadful. I have not worked anywhere that backwards. “Not to speak to male coworkers?”. Did you work for the Mike Pence campaign or something? What did the other women in the workplace think?
I did get paid less than the guys I worked with in the early 1990s, literally because they were men. But not since. We have female VP of Finance, female Financial Controller, I’d say it’s 75/25 still in the top so not equal, but about half our operational managers are women, and I work in sports, that doesn’t seem a wildly progressive industry.
It was a legal office that was part of a well-known insurance company. The manager was a conservative Catholic. He believed that a man and a woman speaking to each other too much was “basically the same as sex”. He told me it was acceptable to speak to men if I absolutely had to, but I needed to say what was necessary and then stop talking. He accused me of having sexual affairs with multiple coworkers, literally for speaking to them too often, conversations going on for too long, going out for lunch together, etc. Normal coworkerly behavior.
Since interacting with them would be “infidelity”, he ignored the female attorneys in the office. He’d invite all the male attorneys out to a nice restaurant for lunch while all the women ate a bag lunch in their offices, etc. They couldn’t stand him. He was nice to the support staff, but I think in his eyes, they were “good women”: married with kids, Catholic, subservient towards him.
He thought I was horrible because I lived with a boyfriend, didn’t want kids, wasn’t religious, etc. I tried to have an adult conversation about it where I told him I respected his beliefs, but I didn’t share them, and it wasn’t his place as a manager to punish me for not sharing his religious beliefs. But, he insisted it had nothing to do with religion.
The company’s attitude was that he was the manager, so I had to do what he told me to do. 🙄
There’s a lot of people who resent that things ever changed for women, and have spent every moment since trying to put things back to the way they were. I’ve worked for a lot of them. I’ve definitely been expected to get coffee, been told not to speak to male coworkers unless absolutely necessary, been told that I dressed too well and it was tempting male coworkers to sin, been told there was something mentally wrong with me because I didn’t “take care of myself” by wearing more makeup, been blamed for work conflicts I wasn’t involved in because I should’ve been the peacemaker. All in the last 10 years. But, yeah, I’m glad I can use birth control legally.
Holy crap! That is dreadful. I have not worked anywhere that backwards. “Not to speak to male coworkers?”. Did you work for the Mike Pence campaign or something? What did the other women in the workplace think?
I did get paid less than the guys I worked with in the early 1990s, literally because they were men. But not since. We have female VP of Finance, female Financial Controller, I’d say it’s 75/25 still in the top so not equal, but about half our operational managers are women, and I work in sports, that doesn’t seem a wildly progressive industry.
It was a legal office that was part of a well-known insurance company. The manager was a conservative Catholic. He believed that a man and a woman speaking to each other too much was “basically the same as sex”. He told me it was acceptable to speak to men if I absolutely had to, but I needed to say what was necessary and then stop talking. He accused me of having sexual affairs with multiple coworkers, literally for speaking to them too often, conversations going on for too long, going out for lunch together, etc. Normal coworkerly behavior.
Since interacting with them would be “infidelity”, he ignored the female attorneys in the office. He’d invite all the male attorneys out to a nice restaurant for lunch while all the women ate a bag lunch in their offices, etc. They couldn’t stand him. He was nice to the support staff, but I think in his eyes, they were “good women”: married with kids, Catholic, subservient towards him.
He thought I was horrible because I lived with a boyfriend, didn’t want kids, wasn’t religious, etc. I tried to have an adult conversation about it where I told him I respected his beliefs, but I didn’t share them, and it wasn’t his place as a manager to punish me for not sharing his religious beliefs. But, he insisted it had nothing to do with religion.
The company’s attitude was that he was the manager, so I had to do what he told me to do. 🙄