Summary

Elon Musk labeled Britain a “tyrannical police state” on X, criticized Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s leadership, and questioned the imprisonment of far-right activist Tommy Robinson.

Musk’s comments coincide with his role as a key adviser to Trump, raising concerns in the U.K. about its relationship with the incoming administration.

Musk also criticized Starmer’s policies, including increased farm inheritance taxes, and boosted far-right content on X.

This follows similar clashes with other U.S. allies, including Germany and Australia, over their domestic policies.

  • @[email protected]
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    81 month ago

    Seeing the kind of tyrannical laws that were enacted in that country in the last couple of years, I’m very much in agreement.

    Musk can still go piss off.

    • Nfamwap
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      111 month ago

      Laws that were enacted by the previous Tory government who were in power for 12 years.

      Starmer/Labour have only been in government for a few months so for them to have done what Musk is suggesting in such a short time, is quite the achievement.

  • @[email protected]
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    841 month ago

    It’s really annoying how this guy never complains about what actual autocracies are doing; never a peep complaining about the times they ask for things to be removed from Twitter. Just hand wringing about needing to follow the law to operate in those places. Hypocrite

    • @[email protected]
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      141 month ago

      Welcome to politics, there’s all sorts going on that we know nothing about that will influence who says what about whom, when and why. Hypocrisy is irrelevant to these people. He’s just influencing.

      • @[email protected]
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        1 month ago

        Yes. And in this instance, he’s right.

        Edit: do the down voters really not realize that the UK is a tyrannical police State?

    • NeilBrü
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      Elon Musk is an authoritarian masquerading as someone who values free thought, inquiry, and action. What he means when he says “freedom” is for the ultra-wealthy to have “freedom” from accountability to an “authoritarian” government or the “whims of the unwashed masses” and do as they please with impunity.

      The British Government is an authoritarian police state which punishes thought-crimes against their contemporary monarchist/corporatist zeitgeist with impunity.

      Both things can be true, and I argue they are.

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          Hypocrisy is rampant among those who are rarely/never held accountable. My assumption is either that he’s incapable of comprehending it, or he doesn’t care about it.

    • Carighan Maconar
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      41 month ago

      Wait, someone guilty of a crime can get jailed for the crime?

      That certainly explains why people like Musk or Trump don’t get it, since that does not apply to them.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      He’s also been to prison twice for violent crime including assaulting a police officer.

  • @[email protected]
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    811 month ago

    Jesus Christ Russia have absolutely nailed this part of their geopolitical play.

    They’ve basically got 2 members of, if not an entire, US government under their thumb, they’ve corrupted the EU to make one of their major contributors to leave (thinking the US is on their side, idiotically), and they’ve got good relations with the other superpower (china).

    Annoyingly, it looks like the EU which is the most, even if not enough, “for the people” political establishment in our world today is going to get screwed over the next decade or so.

      • LustyArgonian
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        41 month ago

        No and this is a stupid idea that just exists to justify fascism. We have many books about abuse and arguing in good faith and philosophy for this reason.

        • @[email protected]
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          -21 month ago

          Are you dumb or do you just see fascists everywhere? It’s pretty obvious that not having having handicaps like morality or legality gives you an advantage against those who are abide by them, just look at the world.

          It’s not a justification it’s an observation

          • LustyArgonian
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            Well, this is back from Plato’s Republic days, sorry I thought we all were up to date on thousands of years old references. The argument is that democracy always fails to bad faith actors, and democracy always fails. Arguments against democracy are fascist at their core. Democracy itself can be defended from bad faith actors of course, so it’s a simplistic, stupid statement made by someone who is advocating for one thing only: anti-democracy, or fascism.

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              Democracy itself can be defended from bad faith actors of course

              How? Please elaborate don’t just say of course

              • LustyArgonian
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                Oh, you need me to look up what arguing in good faith is, all the way back to Socrates? You want me to explain the history of our modern court system and how it is entirely based on Western philosophical reasoning which are based on Arabic, Indian, and Chinese philosophical reasonings via the Silk Road? That this idea that democracy will always have a dictator has been confronted by people for thousands of years so they can live in a government with both freedom and safety, and thus modern philosophical ideas about democracy spring from that.

                Things like what ‘sophistry’ is. Or do you just want me to post a fallacy chart? Or maybe you just need to read book recommendations like “Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist.”

                We give each other information in a way that is democratic- individually consensual. Each person must then be taught skills to learn bad faith advances. However, here in the US, we let people be taken advantage of by marketing and capitalism and we neglected this in schools. This is why we aren’t doing well and why Russian propaganda worked so well - it relies on heuristics that most people recognize once they get a philosophical education in fallacies.

                If democracies always failed, then there would literally never be a stable democracy. That there are, indicates that the simplistic idea they will always fail to bad faith actors is incorrect.

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 month ago

                  I bet the Romans thought their empire and system was very stable, everything is stable if you choose the right timeframe. Our democracies may seem stable, for now…

                  Also history is not a good indicator because mass media and the internet changed the playing field in ways that are not comparable to any other period in history.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        Are you kidding? America is easily the least honest place in the entire world. In a country of lying, scheming conmen grifters the most confident grifter is king.

  • Blackout
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    He must be mad! How could this place be a tyrannical police state?

    typical British nightlife

  • palordrolap
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    1751 month ago

    White, rich guy from apartheid South Africa accuses country of tyranny after it locks up a person white supremacists look up to.

    Hmm. Hmmmm.

  • @[email protected]
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    611 month ago

    He’s got such a hate boner for Kier Starmer that I’m kind of intrigued. Starmer is the most boring, beaurocratic politician you can find. I can’t understand what’s triggered this latest Musk mania.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          It remains to be seen what he’s actually done to benefit anyone who gave him anything.

          And he stopped accepting them once he entered the office. We found out because he told us about it all and the mistake of accepting some gifts a bit too late.

          With the only arguable benefits being publicity for the brand it’s not nothing but it really is daft the perspective tricks that have been played with that particular molehill. It’s the press that actually gave the gifters the benefits, not any actions by Starner himself.

          Being given something isn’t proof of being bought. Acting for the person who gave you something is.

          I predict that as the COVID era corruption comes to light his previous job will result in him prosecuting and recovering quite a lot of public money. Sadly I don’t think he will get a result of jail time for anyone. The laws just aren’t in place for that and he can’t get them made retrospectively.

          A UK constitution would be very interesting. But I’d just settle for some actual laws specifically against corruption rather than relying on MPs following conventions and being honourable.

          The shocking thing is that hundreds of millions of pounds worth of corruption through the “fast lane” wasn’t illegal to do. We’ll only be able to recoup from the companies who actually didn’t deliver their contracts.

      • LustyArgonian
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        31 month ago

        Yes, truth is terrifying to a liar. Justice is terrifying to a fraud.