Russian President Vladimir Putin has suffered an emabarassing setback as his feared Satan 2 nuclear arsenal failed four out of five missile tests, according to arms experts and satellite imagery from the launch site.
High-resolution satellite images of the launch pad at Russia’s Plesetsk test site, where the RS-28 Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile exploded, shows extensive damage.
A crater approximately 60 meters wide at the launch silo at the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in northern Russia, along with visible damage in the surrounding area that was not present in images taken earlier in the month.
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I heard the success one got 35 kilometres, anyone can confirm?
for a ballistic missile 35 km is pretty ass. I think even ATACMs gets pretty close to this, upwards of like (edit 300km, i think i’m thinking of gmlrs lol) And that’s just a missile.
Ballistic missiles should really be able to go intercontinental, that was kind of the point of them.
for a ballistic missile 35 km is pretty ass.
Extremely ass.
Howitzers can shoot like 30km.
edit this cannon can do 41 km https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/155_GH_52_APU
edit2 we in Finland have like 700 howitzers and 56 of those linked cannons, plus tons of heavy mortars etc etc
ATACMS can go 300 km.
good call, i think i was confusing it with gmlrs for a second, though it’s also worth noting for a while the export variants had limited ranges, due to the US concerns over ukraine stuffing this shit straight into moscow.
Not anymore though.
How many kilometers is one stick of dynamite? By one stick, I mean like the size of a soda’s height with a diameter equal or Greater than an A in chemistry. The internal composition being 37.3 grains and the .3 grain was cut and licked properly…so yeah, how many kilometers would that be?
Why would you make up your own metric? 1 stick and 1/2 stick are literal measurements.
You understood the comment?
The perfect range to nuke their own city and claim Ukraine did it.
Didn’t Ukraine give up it’s nuclear armaments by treaty with Russia in exchange for Russia acknowledging its sovereignty?
A treaty that died the moment Russian tanks crossed the border.
Not saying Ukraine have nukes, nor that they should have them, but if they did, they wouldn’t be in violation of that particular treaty.
the moment russian tanks crossed the border.
For clarity, that moment occurred in 2014.
I mean, it would be in line with their other obvious lies.
The good thing is that Cern will sending them a bunch of great scientists soon. They should figure out how to make the other failures go!
Right? Or in the US not smart enough to go get all those scientists and give them a grant each to go save the south African penguin?
What
Last time, they invented modern rocketry and turbojets. So, you know, can’t let that happen.
They already invented it before, ahem, “leaving” though.
Putin, the limpest dick in Russia.
It can carry multiple warheads, including nuclear ones, with estimates suggesting it can deliver up to 10–15 independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs).
Oh good, if only one single missile in Russia’s entire arsenal goes off, we’d only loose 10-15 cities.
MIRVs have been a thing for like 50 years.
The US even took them out of submarine launched missiles, because they made the soviets so nervous we had to promise that we couldn’t delete half of their country in 15 minutes.
But don’t worry, nuclear war happens so fast, and diplomatic channels are so slow, if anyone launches anything, everyone is practically forced to launch everything or risk losing it. So even if Russia did just launch one to destroy 10-15 cities, all of the cities everywhere would be destroyed anyway.
I would hope that cooler heads prevail, as they have before.
This is the most famous one but I believe there was also one by NORAD in the 60s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident
There have been several incidents where warning systems glitched out, and only the quick thinking of a handful of individuals stopped an actual launch from happening.
If you ever look up at the sky and see 5-10 diagonal lines almost in parallel… well, if you have a firearm nearby, that would be a good time to self-exit for sure.
Please don’t shoot yourself if 5-10 planes just happen to fly parallel
Shit. We just had an airshow here and I was about to look for my ticket for self exit. Thanks for the heads up.
“Tragedy at the air show today…”
Don’t live close to an airport lol
I live right next to one of the largest airports in the world.
I see 5-10 parallel lines in the sky multiple times a day.
I also live next to one of the largest airports in the world, which is a few miles from a national guard base located right outside one of the largest cities in America.
I’m probably in the fireball radius of a nuke, assuming the Russians haven’t been embezzling their government money and are still fueling their hydrogen bombs, so if the big red button gets pushed, I’ll just get vaporized about half an hour later.
Don’t shoot yourself just because you see lines in the sky. You’re either close enough to civilization for planes to make lines in the sky, in which case the bombs will probably get you anyway, or you’re so far out in the sticks that you’ll have plenty of time to make a decision.
The only winning move is not to play
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Just more empty sabre rattling from the Kremlin
Try to copy Ukrainian missile from 58 years ago
Fail
Second greatest military in the world!
Second greatest military in the world
I think they might be second best in Russia by now lmfao
Third best after prigozhin.
Has Wagner done anything since Jeka’s definitely not suspicious death?
I think I remember hearing in Jake Hanrahan’s Popular Front podcast in an interview that they have all been absorbed into the regular army.
They were hunted down a couple of times by Ukrainian spec ops in Africa.
Try to copy Ukrainian missile from 58 years ago
When both Russia and Ukraine were part of the USSR?
Second greatest military in the world!
The USSR hasn’t existed for >30 years, since then, Ukraine and Russia have done little but feed on its corpse. Does anyone honestly think modern Russia has a better military than China?
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Ukraine has done a lot more to move forward then Russia ever has.
True the engineering were always done In Ukraine, Russia just got carried by the others nations
The USSR couldn’t have achieved a fraction of what it did without all its SSRs working together.
Hell it probably wouldn’t have survived getting invaded by every country with a military after WWI without both Russia and Ukraine.
And? I only said the Ukraine has been doing more to increase the quality of life for its citizens then Russia.
Also, it’s a pretty bold claim to say that EVERY nation with a military has tried to invade. I’d like to see a list of that.
it’s a pretty bold claim to say that EVERY nation with a military has tried to invade
It’s only the slightest exaggeration..
Between 1915 and 1920, they were invaded by: United Kingdom, France, US, Japan, Italy, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Greece, Serbia, Romania, China, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, The Ottoman Empire, and I’m sure I missed a few more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Russia_intervention
Czechoslovakia certainly didn’t invade in the traditional sense, because:
- The troops were there before the bolshevik revolution with the agreement of the Russian government and on the way out of Russia when they were attacked.
- Czechoslovakia didn’t exist yet.
It’s kinda wild to claim that the US invaded Russia when they literally only sent one contigent of troops. That’s like saying Canada invaded Afghanistan.
Canada did invade Afghanistan though?
Between 1915 and 1920
Not at all relevant to any current events.
The point was that it’s silly to try to divide up and assign individual responsibility for the achievements of the USSR 30-100+ years ago when those achievements were only possible because Ukraine and Russia were part of a greater whole.
Good point. Failing to copy your own missile would be even worse, though.
Does anyone honestly think modern Russia has a better military than China?
A good number of people did until early 2022. It looked a lot better on paper.
A good number of people did until early 2022. It looked a lot better on paper.
Did it? I remember a ton of propaganda about Putin and Russia going back to the Obama era, but then they’d show off stuff the USSR had developed to fight a war in Germany/Ukraine against late 1900s American equipment and tactics.
Whereas China was showing off their modern fighters, tank and ship production, and an entire branch of the military dedicated to missiles, and greater numbers than any other military, all designed to fight their next war; defending against/driving the US out of it’s back yard.
If you’re talking about the whole “human wave” thing in WWII, the ex-Nazis made that up for their memoirs. The old AskHistorians subreddit went into it once; basically the USSR fought the same way everyone else did.
I think the smart money was still on China post 2010 or so, but there was actual debate. They had a lot of old weapon stocks, and a still respectable population, if not as huge as China’s.
If you’re talking about the whole “human wave” thing in WWII, the ex-Nazis made that up for their memoirs.
Ironically, there actual cases of human-wave like attacks in WWII, notably banzai charges by Japan and MacArthur’s Walking Fire.
Walking Fire is new to me. It sounds like it’s pretty much an older term for suppressive fire during an advance, from a quick search. Do you have an example of it leading to massive attrition like that?
The Japanese liked to do it as a last resort sometimes, that’s definitely true, and it was the plan if the home islands were invaded. In practice, I have no idea what proportion of those civilians drilling with melee weapons would have been dumb enough to try it IRL, though.
A good number of people did until early 2022. It looked a lot better on paper.
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
I mean the jokes comes from somewhere.
To try to be less technical, I’d go as far as saying it was a double-digit percentage of public commenters. I remember because I was there thinking how dumb that is.
.ml moment
I expected a .ml to show up huffing copium when I saw this thread, wasn’t disappointed. So predictable.
It’s copium to acknowledge that Ukraine and Russia were part of the same country 58 years ago, and that modern Russia and Ukraine are able to achieve far less than the USSR was? This is evidenced by both countries primarily fighting with 30+ year old weapons.
I guess basic historical literacy is tankie shit now.
No, the .ml moment would be something like “don’t believe your lying CIA eyes, all the non-Western nations are working together in beautiful anti-imperialist harmony and very competent”.
This seems like a normal take from someone who happens to be on .ml.
Most propaganda isn’t that obvious. It often seems normal and a lot of it is actually based on the truth.
Internet “anti-imperialists” wish they were getting paid, which is what propaganda implies. In reality, it’s Qanon but gay-friendly.
Yes, well said. Many of them are just useful idiots.
is russia testing nuclear arms again?
US tested a Minuteman III missile out of Vandenberg earlier this year. It was not carrying a nuclear payload. It’s fairly common for countries to test missiles. Some countries broadcast their intent publicly so as not to accidentally trigger a retaliatory launch. Others don’t broadcast publicly, but they do communicate via the good-old-boy net for the same reason.
This may be off topic, but I absolutely loved reading about Minuteman III guidance system.
And unlike all those “missiles by subscription and good behavior” that many big countries sell to smaller countries, it doesn’t rely on any satellite system or external corrections after launch.
BTW, I wonder what’s inside Russian ICBMs. People often say that all the Russian big cool projects in defense after breakup of the USSR are just finished Soviet projects. If that is true, there must be an awfully complex, but geek-porn-ish thing inside, possibly with analog and maybe even mechanical elements. If that is not, it’s still interesting. Right now yes, Russian military engineering relies on many foreign (NATO countries produced in fact) components. But that didn’t become a thing immediately, so I wonder how did they solve problems.
So, basically their post-soviet tech is all unfinished Soviet designs the soviets could never get to work, with a few western chips thrown in to do the math and control they could never manage.
the soviets could never get to work
No, just what was in progress.
“A few western chips” for military grade applications would be not too easy to get for some time, and USSR and then Russia could produce them, and the process of plants producing such closing was very slow and lasted till late 00s. It’s not the difference between a project stalling and moving further.
It’s the most recent stuff we hear about relying on Western components.
to do the math and control they could never manage
USSR with all its shortcomings did have functional nuclear shield, a space station, domestically produced computers (clones of Western things, yes, but that was a strategic decision, a stupid one though), a space shuttle analog that was arguably better. So “never manage” is usually not the reason for its failures. Economic inefficiency and administrative rot are.
Hey Russia, we’re launching a nuke missle with the nuke removed in your direction. Just testing we swear!
Sort of. The ICBM rocket delivery system.
The US is developing a new ICBM as well.
ok so they’re not “testing nuclear payloads” then. That’s good to know. I was confused as to what they meant with the title.
If they ever do test nuclear payloads, thats going to be a nightmare.
The US at least regularly tests its missiles. They shoot from California toward a Pacific island into a painted target.
Modern ICBMs are insanely accurate.
Ya but not with a nuclear nomb just a dummy payload.
yeah, that was why i asked about, testing missiles is not weird at all. Testing nuclear bombs would be very weird.
Nukes are tested on super computers since the treaty band.
Except for North Korea while it was catching up.
that’s the general strat, but nothing competes with real world testing fortunately for us, having tested thousands of nukes over the years.
They could ask help from their north Korean buddies
Satan 2: This time, it’s personal.
Satan 3: Can’t Get Fooled Again
Satan 4: Moscow Drift
Satan Five
Satan 6.66: A rival from hell
Satan 2: Infernal Boogaloo
That’s a Russian clean sweep! Get out the smuggled Champaign.
ok slightly unrelated but the satellite pictures have an insane resolution for having been taken from, you know, space
Just imagine what the government has if that’s what’s available commercially to the public
for one thing, it’s mostly just lensing, and for another, it’s also partially due to the atmosphere of the earth actually working in tandem with the lensing of the satellites themselves. Dont ask me how it works but from what i understand, seeing out from earth is harder, but seeing in from space is easy. Something to do with the way that light refraction in the atmosphere works or something.
the weirdest thing about telescopes (essentially what these are), is that you can just put a hole in them, and they’ll still work just fine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_J._Smith_Telescope#Vandalism_damage
We know from Trump’s heedless shitposting that they can get the theoretical maximum resolution out of whatever aperture they have. For the US ones with the Hubble-clone mirrors that means not quite enough to recognise a face.
still scary AF
IMO it’s one of the least worst forms of surveillance. Keyhole 69420 might be able to see you’re outside, but the NSA sees everything you put in Google, especially the embarrassing things.
The heedless shitposting for those who don’t remember: https://www.npr.org/2022/11/18/1137474748/trump-tweeted-an-image-from-a-spy-satellite-declassified-document-shows
It’s amazing that one person can do so much crazy shit even that’s forgettable.
I bet no one remembers even a quarter of this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
Just gotta hope they are not pointing the thing at you…
I mean, it’s hard to avoid any number of other, closer cameras.
i imagine a bit of that is a software trick
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