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Glad I nuked all my posts and comments and deleted my account last year
Ha. Some time ago they just started reversing it.
It was all backed up publicly on push shift. Still is.
I should have nuked mine. Ugh. https://www.reddit.com/u/return2ozma
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With reddits severe bot problem, it’ll be like training on unfiltered sewage. Garbage in, garbage out.
Machines training machines? How perverse!
Gross
Damn it. I haven’t deleted my account due to how many people I’ve supported and helped, I stopped using it while ago. It seems I’ll have to.
I wouldn’t bother. They’ll just mark all your stuff DELETED=1 and feed it to their AI anyway.
That’s not a bad idea.
I’m kind of puzzled by this mindset. You were pleased with supporting and helping people before, but now supporting and helping is bad?
I’m happy that everyone has the support, but not that some specific AI can monetize that same support. I left on my Reddit account ways to contact me (including Lemmy). I helped others so good vibes could reach them, not for making the rich richer.
Fortunately there are a lot of open source models these days too.
Good thing I had multiple bots overwrite my content before I deleted it all. Not that someone couldn’t recover it, I’m not naive. But the AI bots should miss me.
Any suggestion on the best way to do that?
There is a Plugin RES (Reddit Enhancement Suite) for Firefox, which could be run on the classic frontend of Reddit to delete everything you posted. https://www.alphr.com/how-to-delete-all-reddit-posts/
Thank you!
Frankly, if they’re training bots on my comments, I’d be sure to poison the shit out of those comments. Say stuff like ‘Donald trump won the election’, ‘bleach needs to be inside the body to work’, ‘Russia has rights to Ukraine’, etc. Just make the data worthless. Any free bots do that?
Reddit already has plenty of actual users doing that for free.
Why does it sound like reddit trained AI will only get dumber.
That would explain why GPT is often so confidently incorrect.
Good thing I scrubbed all of my posts and comments that I could. Fuck that site, straight up and down.
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Oh my sweet summer child
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Because of GDPR, there should be a way to completely wipe your account
It’s literally been proven that they do. A guy here on Lemmy was a very common poster on some tech support subreddit. He used one of those account scrubbers and deleted his account. He went back to look a few weeks later and all his comments were back.
I didn’t delete my account but I used a script to edit all my messages to say that I have left because of the attack on 3rd party apps and when I check now they all still say that.
The point is doesn’t matter what is visible, they could be storing all the comments edit history and simply not show it.
That only helps for a third party without access to reddit data , which they could have if reddit sells it to them, from scraping the page, yes in that case your comments cannot be used.
And they didn’t bother to restore you because you probably weren’t useful to make a community look attractive. He was so after he scrubbed his account, possibly with the exact same tool you did, they put everything back.
Yeah. At most they’d mark the comments as inactive, hide from the user accessible areas and maybe anonymize the user id. But they definitely have the username table and the data still in the system, 100%, just waiting for the right offer.
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There are archives of all Reddit comments that are collected at the time of posting, all the deletion and scrubbing and whatnot people are doing months or years after the fact doesn’t affect those.
*laughs villainously* This is all going to plan, now there will be some chatbot spewing my insane beliefs
“Reddit has given access to YOUR conversations and posts to AI companies.”. FTFY
These were created by people, for peoole, and I will ALWAYS disagree that this data is Reddit’s or any other platforms.
Don’t forget your direct messages aren’t end to end encrypted on Reddit, so now AI will be trained on your craziest “private” conversations
Oh no, all the times I sent or received dodo codes from randos so we could trade animal crossing items. Whatever shall I do?
Edit: I’m gonna leave this here for people to use as a resource against Reddit because it may be worth it to do something actionable.
https://thomashunter.name/posts/2023-06-19-how-to-delete-reddit-account-gdpr-ccpa
now AI will be trained on your craziest “private” conversations
I have no idea what horrible thing this will do to an LLM but I’m kind of curious.
Well it’s not yours once you post it on some platform, tbf
Well to be fair, everything you post and comment on Lemmy can be used in the exact same way
There’s one good news. Reddit didn’t want to pay to move all the old DMs to the new chat infrastructure. So they deleted them.
Pretty sure they just didn’t migrate to the new data structure and didn’t actually delete the raw data. They’re effectively deleted for users but not for Reddit.
I wish there was a license for content like the GPL, that states if you use this content to train generative AI, the model must be open source. Not sure that would legally be enforceable though (due to fair-use).
This is what the 3rd party access to API was really all about.
When API access was allowed , all reddit content was effectively free: They needed to ban 3rd party apps so they could sell the accumulated content. I expect using content to train AI also factors into it.
Is it? Because when you build a bot and just scrape Reddit I don’t think you can just use the content to train AI, just like the New York Times. The API change was definitely to sell more ads and get a higher IPO, but I don’t think it was because of AI.
Am I crazy or are you arguing the same point? Scraping is not the same as API access. They closed off the API to everyone for dubious reasons so they can sell that content (both for ads and AI training)… Right??
No you’re not, the post was editted. The original one said it was all because of AI, the entire reason for the API change was to sell to AI companies.
Edit, now I’m in doubt, because if you edit a post that is shown somehow right?
Edit2, just to be clear my point is that Reddit content was never free, before and after the API change. It’s easier to get the content with a decent API, sure. But it was never free, just like the lawsuit the NY Times started.
Considering how much of Reddit is already bots, I’m sure this will end fantastically.
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/r/leopardsatemyface
It already happened without their consent. You’ve been able to get it to produce “reddit text posts”, for years. This is a bit harrowing, though.
